Pat Robertson CBN 700 Club Scam

[rogerbovee]

Here's a link showing "Rev." Robertson flashing the "Hail Satan" sign with one hand while praying, and it also claims Robertson is a 33rd degree Mason: http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...contentid=2995 The CBN Network got started in 1966, same year "Rosemary's Baby" came out. Turn the 9 upside down and you get 666.

Then we know that "Rev." Robertson is a very rich man. Worth at least $140 million, according to some estimates. See http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/business.html
He lives in a mansion on the top of a mountain in Virginia with it's own private airstrip. He own the "Ice Capades." So how did "Rev." Robertson get so rich when he has been a "minister of the gospel" most of his adult life?

One reason is he built up his network with contributions from Christians and then recently sold that network for tens of millions of dollars, which he put in his own pocket. And did he sell the network to a Christian? No, but to none other than Australian Jewish neocon billionaire Rupert Murdoch, the same "Married...With Children" and "The Simpsons" Rupert Murdoch. So now Robertson's network only has a couple hours a day of "Christian" programming, mostly his own mostly Republican politics show, and an hour a day of "Sabrina The Teenage Witch."

[sparques]

I think you would find yourself with more credibility if you did not rely on 4 year old conspiracy theories to support your claims. His hand gesture is easily seen as an innocent gesture, just as easily as the so-called hidden satanic crap.

Trust me, I have no love for the guy and I think that all these super wealthy ministers are hypocrites of biblical proportions. But their scam is not about hidden devil worship....it is about their preying on people who are struggling day to day.....stealing their last dime.....meanwhile the ministry's jets get faster, their estates become more vast, and their investments grow and grow. All tax-free of course.

(I hold Billy Graham innocent though....He has always been above board with his finances)

[doojie]

Originally Posted by sparques

I think you would find yourself with more credibility if you did not rely on 4 year old conspiracy theories to support your claims. His hand gesture is easily seen as an innocent gesture, just as easily as the so-called hidden satanic crap.

Trust me, I have no love for the guy and I think that all these super wealthy ministers are hypocrites of biblical proportions. But their scam is not about hidden devil worship....it is about their preying on people who are struggling day to day.....stealing their last dime.....meanwhile the ministry's jets get faster, their estates become more vast, and their investments grow and grow. All tax-free of course.

(I hold Billy Graham innocent though....He has always been above board with his finances)

Maybe his money is openly accounted for, but it's still built on a scam.

[sparques]

Originally Posted by doojie

Maybe his money is openly accounted for, but it's still built on a scam.

Right...I agree. But here's how I look at it. It's a "buyer beware" sort of thing. People are gullible about a lot of things. They buy crap impulsively all the time. Most marketers rely on impulse buying. But, at least they are accountable in some way that the public can monitor them. (although most people are too damn lazy to monitor anything!)

Anyway...the scunge out there who collect a combined $4B a year, from people interested in buying their salvation, don't have to report their revenues.

It wasn't until 03 or 05 that the Senate held some hearings regarding some public disclosure so I guess there's some changes coming.

I see that Joyce Meyers is now moving some revenue from her book and DVD sales over to compensate for the money she can't skim from the direct contributions anymore.

This is a good time to light up The Church of Doojie methinks

[TerryP]

Originally Posted by rogerbovee

Here's a link showing "Rev." Robertson flashing the "Hail Satan" sign with one hand while praying, and it also claims Robertson is a 33rd degree Mason: http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...contentid=2995 The CBN Network got started in 1966, same year "Rosemary's Baby" came out. Turn the 9 upside down and you get 666.

Then we know that "Rev." Robertson is a very rich man. Worth at least $140 million, according to some estimates. See http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/business.html
He lives in a mansion on the top of a mountain in Virginia with it's own private airstrip. He own the "Ice Capades." So how did "Rev." Robertson get so rich when he has been a "minister of the gospel" most of his adult life?

One reason is he built up his network with contributions from Christians and then recently sold that network for tens of millions of dollars, which he put in his own pocket. And did he sell the network to a Christian? No, but to none other than Australian Jewish neocon billionaire Rupert Murdoch, the same "Married...With Children" and "The Simpsons" Rupert Murdoch. So now Robertson's network only has a couple hours a day of "Christian" programming, mostly his own mostly Republican politics show, and an hour a day of "Sabrina The Teenage Witch."

There are quite a few "prosperity preachers" who think that God prospers them because of their closeness to Him. The only problem is that they talk about all the hungry people around the world, but give very little of what they have to help the poor. When they die, they can't take their money with them. I have never seen a hearse pulling a Uhaul trailer. Godly prosperity is the idea of laying up treasures in heaven, which can be done by how much you give to others, such as giving to the poor.

[sparques]

Originally Posted by TerryP

There are quite a few "prosperity preachers" who think that God prospers them because of their closeness to Him. The only problem is that they talk about all the hungry people around the world, but give very little of what they have to help the poor. When they die, they can't take their money with them. I have never seen a hearse pulling a Uhaul trailer. Godly prosperity is the idea of laying up treasures in heaven, which can be done by how much you give to others, such as giving to the poor.

I mostly agree with you Terry...except one thing..."There are quite a few "prosperity preachers" who think that God prospers them because of their closeness to Him."

I don't think that they really think that God prospers them Terry....I think that's just what they tell their congregation, so the congregation thinks that they will be blessed big time as well, just like the preacher.

I think these preachers know exactly what they're doing. And they don't give a shit what happens later.

They know the whole bible....but only preach part of it.

They manipulate their finances to maximize their wealth...while convincing people on the verge of homelessness to give their last $5.

They choreograph their revivals to maximize their revenue....
Keep in mind that successful marketing choreography requires a lot of work by people dedicated to crowd manipulation.

The followers will say, "They deserve to be paid well....because of all the good they do"

I don't think the followers realize just how much money we're talking about here.

Let's take Joyce Meyers again...She pulls in $100 Million a year in contributions...and brags about all the good stuff she does.
But....when you total it up...she keeps $7 Million a year....Over and above the fact that the ministry pays all her bills...pays for her estate...her childrens estates, her children's salaries, her husband's salary, her salary, cars, planes, food, and the pool boy.

Have you seen her estate?


Her house in on the right....the kids live across the street.

Jesus would be turning over in his grave if someone didn't move that rock.

No....I really don't think that they think that God prospers them. I think they live very well....and don't give a shit what God thinks.
After all....The plan is workin' pretty good so far.

[TerryP]

Originally Posted by sparques

I mostly agree with you Terry...except one thing..."There are quite a few "prosperity preachers" who think that God prospers them because of their closeness to Him."

I don't think that they really think that God prospers them Terry....I think that's just what they tell their congregation, so the congregation thinks that they will be blessed big time as well, just like the preacher.

I think these preachers know exactly what they're doing. And they don't give a shit what happens later.

They know the whole bible....but only preach part of it.

They manipulate their finances to maximize their wealth...while convincing people on the verge of homelessness to give their last $5.

They choreograph their revivals to maximize their revenue....
Keep in mind that successful marketing choreography requires a lot of work by people dedicated to crowd manipulation.

The followers will say, "They deserve to be paid well....because of all the good they do"

I don't think the followers realize just how much money we're talking about here.

Let's take Joyce Meyers again...She pulls in $100 Million a year in contributions...and brags about all the good stuff she does.
But....when you total it up...she keeps $7 Million a year....Over and above the fact that the ministry pays all her bills...pays for her estate...her childrens estates, her children's salaries, her husband's salary, her salary, cars, planes, food, and the pool boy.

Have you seen her estate?
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Her house in on the right....the kids live across the street.

Jesus would be turning over in his grave if someone didn't move that rock.

No....I really don't think that they think that God prospers them. I think they live very well....and don't give a shit what God thinks.
After all....The plan is workin' pretty good so far.

What really get me is when preachers say that if you give them money, then they will pray for you. I wonder if they even do that? There is really no way of telling. What if hundreds of people a day give money, then how can they pray for them individually? Sometimes they say that they have prayer teams that will pray for you. Why not give your money to a Christian friend in need and ask them to pray for you?

[sparques]

Originally Posted by TerryP

What really get me is when preachers say that if you give them money, then they will pray for you. I wonder if they even do that? There is really no way of telling. What if hundreds of people a day give money, then how can they pray for them individually? Sometimes they say that they have prayer teams that will pray for you. Why not give your money to a Christian friend in need and ask them to pray for you?

I don't recall any passages that say you should pay someone to pray for you. Not a megachurch pastor or a Prayer Team...or a friend in need.

As far as your friend in need....I think that it might be better if you helped your friend in whatever way you felt compelled, and then prayed for him yourself.

[Milkmaid]

I think Pat Robertson is the anti-christ myself. He's even got those little pointy devil ears!

[cliffdonovan]

I called the 1-800 number prayer line at Pat Robertson's CBN to ask for prayer. I called back a second time and when I did, some lady who answered started to actually YELL at me for "keeping calling" and to quit calling the 1-800 number for prayer as it costs them money. She told me to dial the regular number and pay for the call myself. I was in shock. This is a true story. When I asked how she knew it was me, she said they have called ID and keep a record of what numbers call for prayer and how often. I kid you not. I got yelled at the second time I called for prayer. I will never, ever forget it. The lady sounded black for what it is worth.

[songstress]

OK. I've been stewing on this for years, and I finally decided I needed to let other people know... A few years ago, I was watching the 700 Club and they were showing a segment on "Operation Blessing", and I decided I wanted to help. I called the number provided and was told they had enough voulenteers (actually, they said "too many"), but would accept a donation. I told them I was poor, but really wanted to help, but they, flatly, turned me down (what REAL Christian organization has "enough" or "too many" volunteers????). So I joined the 700 Club instead and tithed faithfully. A couple of years later, I hit bottom. I called the prayer hotline and asked for prayer. Instead, I was given about 25 Bible quotes and was told "I'm sorry, but we cannot honor your request at this time". What???? What?????!!!!!!!! You don't have time to pray for me???? Because I am too poor???? Because I have a real problem???? Are your "volunteers", then, actors? Is your "Operation Blessing" program a sham? And why does Pat Robertson know everything, anyway...????!!!!