Blast Off Network

[dr poormouth]

The monumental difference is this--- Blastoff network has partnered with over 300 businesses like Wal-mart, K-mart, Target, Old Navy, Itunes, Barnes & Nobles, Starbucks, Sears, Macys, Expedia, Best Western, Travelocity for travel, godaddy.com. AGAIN - There are over 300 current companies that are going to get you paid a commission of anywhere between 1% and 50% to buy their products through BlastoffNetwork.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

My post from 09/15.
Still waiting to hear bells...

[No_Moron_Here]

Originally Posted by dr poormouth

My post from 09/15.
Still waiting to hear bells...

And my kid brought home a pizza and some wing things from Pizza Hut. Nothing in or on the boxes about Pizza Hut. I've seen it on Pizza Hut's website, but that's it.

[BorisZ]

"We had no idea what you guys were capable of doing! We're growing at a rate of 180 new activations PER HOUR! About $12,000 has been saved or earned by current associates already!"
~ Bill Rodgers, C.E.O. of The Blastoff Network

Considering that they had 100,000 associates, that a "huge" money per person. And they will receive them at best in 90/120 days.

[believer123]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

You have to either sign up under a PPL associate or, as of today, Pizza Hut. It's not totally open to the public yet. You have to go through one of those two options above.

Personally, I'm encouraging people to enroll through individuals rather than corporations. The little people need more help than the corporations.

This just in>

HELP!!!! My account isn't even showing up now. Can't get to my webpage. It says "broken link" unable to connect. It's been fine for 4 weeks up to this morning.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!

5 minutes ago
If there is any good news in this situation, no one can sign up in Pizza Hut's Network either. I just checked their site and their main page comes up, but when you click on "Join Now" it never loads the next page. At least we're all in the same boat.

I’m frustrated


30 million dollars! Pizza hut got a helluva deal on this new advertising campaign. But I am sure they really paid that much because its all over the PPL post your own Bullsh*t websites so it must be true. most large reputable companies shell out large amounts of money on ventures with little to no research.

[SaucyJack]

Originally Posted by believer123

30 million dollars! Pizza hut got a helluva deal on this new advertising campaign. But I am sure they really paid that much because its all over the PPL post your own Bullsh*t websites so it must be true. most large reputable companies shell out large amounts of money on ventures with little to no research.

Gah, according to employee responses, it was a "load balancer" issue. Like the average blastoff user would know what that meant. Hell, I don't. But you'd think $30 million infusion from Pizza Hut would fix such issues, not even be a problem! Apparently not. Maybe the $30 million check made it into the wrong p.o. box at the UPS store Blasoff uses.

[nomaxim]

Wiki article on "Load balancing".

Also, here is another article on the matter from almost 9 years ago, oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/networking/news. There are a number of dedicated load balancers on the market today for a couple grand ($5-10,000 is a round about price even thou some go as high as $20G's).

It's Always the Load Balancer
by Tony Bourke
03/05/2001

I've worked with a lot of server load balancing (SLB) systems, and in doing so I've been asked to diagnose and resolve a variety of issues. I've done this for dozens of clients, ranging from small shops to high-profile Web sites. And let me tell you, if there is one common theme when working in these situations it's that "It's always the load balancer." From complete site outages to packet loss--even male-pattern baldness--load balancers get blamed for almost everything. Anyone who has ever administered a load balancer will probably back me up on this point.

Load balancers are an integral part of today's Web infrastructure. They're also complex and underdocumented pieces of hardware. In this article I will explain the reasons why load balancers get the blame and what you can do about it.

....(click link for full article)

Basically, they are blaming the webhost Softlayer Technologies, INC., also of Plano, TX. The 'About Us' page for them.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by nomaxim

God, what a response to 'gelite's post.

You even 'quoted it in full' yet that is all you have?

That was all that I really noticed. Not much else in there worth replying to.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by believer123

Thank you for clarifying your gender. This has drastically changed my perception of blast off, the topic at hand, how can I sign up-haha. Great rebuttal your company would be proud of your defense. Seriously who gives a sh*t.

Sorry, but nothing else stood out, for me.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by No_Moron_Here

And my kid brought home a pizza and some wing things from Pizza Hut. Nothing in or on the boxes about Pizza Hut. I've seen it on Pizza Hut's website, but that's it.

I've heard but can't confirm that franchises may not be distributing flyers.

[nomaxim]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

I've heard but can't confirm that franchises may not be distributing flyers.

Per franchising.com/information/pizzahut/,

As the world's largest pizza restaurant company with almost 6,600 restaurants in the United States and more than 4,000 restaurants in 100 other countries, Pizza Hut, Inc., a subsidiary of Yum! Brands, Inc. (NYSE: YUM)

Per entrepreneur.com/franchises/pizzahut/282696-0.html for 2009 the breakdown for stores is,

U.S. Franchises-5,084
Foreign Franchises-4,138
Company Owned-1,335

That would mean that about 1 in 6 Pizza Huts is distributing flyers. That is only ~17%.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by nomaxim

Per franchising.com/information/pizzahut/,Per entrepreneur.com/franchises/pizzahut/282696-0.html for 2009 the breakdown for stores is,That would mean that about 1 in 6 Pizza Huts is distributing flyers. That is only ~17%.

Interesting. I would definitely dub you the stats person of the group. I'll have to dig some more about this.

[mumei101]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

Interesting. I would definitely dub you the stats person of the group. I'll have to dig some more about this.

Have Walmart completely dropped BlastOff ? I didn't see them listed under current merchants.

[mumei101]

Originally Posted by No_Moron_Here

And my kid brought home a pizza and some wing things from Pizza Hut. Nothing in or on the boxes about Pizza Hut. I've seen it on Pizza Hut's website, but that's it.

Did you mean "nothing in or on the boxes about BlastOff"

I would imagine that Pizza Hut boxes would have a little info about Pizza Hut on them -lol

So its flyers now is it?

[Fritz Gerlich]

http://getsatisfaction.com/blastoff/...locked_as_spam



Let the blacklisting commence.

http://www.getsatisfaction.com/blast..._in_my_network

[Robot36]

"Also I do know people are slow to move. They lack urgency so you will likely get more as time goes on. Keep plugging at it. I've been telling people that the exclusive window is closing fast. If they join now, they will be at the top. In a few weeks, who knows."


A telling comment from one of the sites mentioned in the post above. What type of schemes do we also see being pushed with a sense of urgency, and a need to get in at the top because you'll lose out if you join later? Not saying it is, but it makes an interesting comparision.

[believer123]

Originally Posted by mumei101

Has Walmart completely dropped BlastOff then? I didnt see them under the current merchants.

I knew you were a girl linda. not that it changes much.

I'm wondering, didn't you have a contract with Wal-Mart? They were the anchor store in this whole thing. How can they just quit? We've already told a lot of people that Wal-Mart is in the mall. Now what do we say?

I’m dissappointed and embarressed


Folks,

If the worlds number one retailer can simply back out... who is next!

The more important question is Why? There has got to be a good valid reason and we should know what that is.

Also since many folks have materials with merchants on that are no longer participating are we then in a "Bait and Switch"

or could it even be considered "False Advertising"



whatever it is it is certainly NOT "Truth in Labeling"

Or do we just "Black Marker" out those who have decided not to participate?

Right now my perception is "Oversell and Under Provide


Quit wanting what I don't want? What I don't want is to be in the dark when a company decides not to be a retail partner. Since I'm out there promoting, it would be nice to know what to promote....:o)


2 days ago Hello,
During the PPL Pre-Launch we had a PPL member who had replicated our corporate marketing site as their own and made some very outlandish claims including Wal-Mart. This caused Wal-Mart to pull out. The PPL Corporate Office was made aware of this situation and helped us shut down this and other similar sites. We have been working on re-establishing this relationship and are making headway.

Thanks,
Bill Rodgers
CEO \


Well there it is from the horses ass, I mean mouth. Walmart is out, (but they'll get them back soon) Sounds like this CEO is not too aware of what is going on out here with the advertising method being used, If he thinks A (as in singular) PPL associate was making outlandish claims. I am not sure what he expected when he included in his marketing structure a company that its associates are trained to believe and push whatever information they are told by their uplines no matter how far from reality this information is.

[mumei101]

Wow is the CEO Bill Rogers really surprised that members are using misleading and deceptive statements to market this hype when they are being encouraged to promote this structure that rewards people for bringing in as many others as possible beneath them and strongly implies that if people do not act fast that they will miss out on an opportunity of a lifetime.

This is why MLM hype programs like this should be banned even if the end product is sound. They effectively encourage people to lie.

If Bill Rogers is surprised at this he should stand down and clean toilets.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by mumei101

Have Walmart completely dropped BlastOff ? I didn't see them listed under current merchants.

Yes. Before the pre-launch, an associate had duplicated the main Blastoff Network site and made some wild claims that included Walmart. Walmart dropped out because of this and the associate's site and others like it were taken down.
I imagine that associate was in some pretty deep sh*t and is not an associate anymore.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by Fritz Gerlich

http://getsatisfaction.com/blastoff/...locked_as_spam



Let the blacklisting commence.

http://www.getsatisfaction.com/blast..._in_my_network

Blastoff has definitely had major spam issues so people have been instructed to send out their own invitations until Blastoff straightens out the issue.

[Fritz Gerlich]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

Blastoff has definitely had major spam issues so people have been instructed to send out their own invitations until Blastoff straightens out the issue.

The problem is people's personal emails are being blacklisted, which is a major pita I would imagine. And from my POV, if participating in a scheme requires somebody to start using methods to get around spam filters and laws (like disposable emails and domain link redirecting) maybe things aren't all golden. But that seems to be what Blastoff needs the individual members for, i.e. getting around spam filters and laws.

[believer123]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

I've heard but can't confirm that franchises may not be distributing flyers.

Can anyone confirm that there are any flyers going out at all or boxtops with the logo, I hope that somewhere there are, well I would if I had been manipulated into this scheme anyway. Because the flyers are the excuse your bossman gave for the loss of your 2wk exclusive period.

Hi Jim,
The Pizza Hut launch was a tricky issue for us. When we postponed the PPL launch the 2nd time we were able to push our other marketing partners as well as our own public launch back to accomodate the the PPL 2 week exclusive. Unfortunately we were told by Pizza Hut that they already had print ads that were in cycle that could not be stopped. We immediately informed PPL of this and have agreed to run additional PPL Business Opportunity advertisements on all Blastoff Home Pages as a concession.

Thanks for your involvement Jim and good luck!

Bill Rodgers
CEO

[spittenimage]

Originally Posted by nomass

I don't know much about blastoff but I do know a bit about their claimed owners (PPL) and the people involved in either company will likely be very unhappy.

Pre-Paid Legal Hit with Subpoena from SEC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The MLM, Pre-Paid Legal, has been served a subpoena from the United States Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC) demanding documents related to its treasury stock repurchase program, marketing practices, membership information, and disclosure practices, among other matters.
Pre-Paid's stock plummetted more than 20% when the news became known.

See background reports and developments on deceptive selling related to Pre-Paid Legal

Wow, never seen any company under scrutiny by the government for anything before! This is SO AMAZING. I mean if Walmart, Microsoft, & Nike could have been able to avoid bad publicity and lawsuits then certainly so should Pre-Paid Legal!!!

HEY I actually got one better! But Don't take my word for it, listen to what Forbes has to say!

Forbes features Pre-Paid Legal (again) as a Top 200 Best Small Company in the USA, but featured them #1 for Return On Equity for the 2nd year in a row! Forbes Top 200 Companies 2009

You would think that Forbes with all their subscribers, millions of dollars, & their reputation on the line would actually know how to do their homework!!

I am so glad I came to Scam to find real expert researchers putting their anonymous profiles on the line for us lowly uneducated fools out here. Thank you so much for sharing just how rotten this company really is!

[spittenimage]

[quote=Ayos;805651]Is this a scam? Has there been anything like this in the past? "Press-release" copy and pasted below (I took out the guys contact info):

You came to a site where anyone can get an account and spew some stupid garbage as if they really know what they're talking about. When in reality everyone including those that say good things are no better at answering your question then YOU are! This is not a site to do your homework. I mean come on.. you have people spewing garbage like "any time you see recruiting as a way of making money RUN AWAY" so does that mean I should run away from any company placing a want ad for employment? Is that not recruiting into a business structure that looks like a pyramid?? YES IT IS. Point being you should go to the experts that put their reputations on the line when researching and then publishing their findings to the world. Think about it, who has more to lose from their published findings? Some out of work college idiot taking a break from playing video games? Or a company that puts millions into research & publishing for their millions of readers?
For example.
Q: How do I know Pre-Paid Legal is a legitmate company?

A: Don't take my word for it, listen to what Forbes has to say! Forbes features Pre-Paid Legal (again) as a Top 200 Best Small Company in the USA, but featured them #1 for Return On Equity for the 2nd year in a row! Forbes Top 200 Companies 2009

You would think that Forbes with all their subscribers, millions of dollars, & their reputation on the line would actually know how to do their homework...

But you go ahead and do your homework on this rediculous site instead of doing it properly at a library & see how far that gets you in life.

[gelite]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

Yes. Before the pre-launch, an associate had duplicated the main Blastoff Network site and made some wild claims that included Walmart. Walmart dropped out because of this and the associate's site and others like it were taken down.
I imagine that associate was in some pretty deep sh*t and is not an associate anymore.

Wild claims, man those must have been pretty wild. Like, "wild"er than Blast Off's claims? No way!

I wonder how hard the affiliates are going to shit themselves once they find out what you're doing.

[believer123]

Originally Posted by spittenimage

Wow, never seen any company under scrutiny by the government for anything before! This is SO AMAZING. I mean if Walmart, Microsoft, & Nike could have been able to avoid bad publicity and lawsuits then certainly so should Pre-Paid Legal!!!

HEY I actually got one better! But Don't take my word for it, listen to what Forbes has to say!

Forbes features Pre-Paid Legal (again) as a Top 200 Best Small Company in the USA, but featured them #1 for Return On Equity for the 2nd year in a row! Forbes Top 200 Companies 2009

You would think that Forbes with all their subscribers, millions of dollars, & their reputation on the line would actually know how to do their homework!!

I am so glad I came to Scam to find real expert researchers putting their anonymous profiles on the line for us lowly uneducated fools out here. Thank you so much for sharing just how rotten this company really is!

While we are comparing blast off to Wal mart..... Do you think that the cashiers at Wal mart feel like they got a "life changing oppurtunity" when they were hired. I dont know too many but I doubt it. Thats kinda what you are for Blast off Just a lowly little cashier, puttin in the hours for the big man. At least at walmart you know how much you will make, and you can pretty much count on wal mart running every day.

[mumei101]

Originally Posted by spittenimage

You came to a site where anyone can get an account and spew some stupid garbage as if they really know what they're talking about. When in reality everyone including those what say things good are no better at answering your question then YOU are! This is not a site to do your homework. I mean come on.. you have people spewing garbage like "any time you see recruiting as a way of making money RUN AWAY" so does that mean I should run away from any company placing a want ad for employment? Is that not recruiting into a business structure that looks like a pyramid?? YES IT IS. Point being you should to the experts that put their reputations on the line when researching and then publishing their findings to the world. Think about it, who has more to lose from their published findings? Some out of work college idiot taking a break from playing video games? Or a company that puts millions into research & publishing for their millions of readers?
For example.
Q: How do I know Pre-Paid Legal is a legitmate company?

A: Don't take my word for it, listen to what Forbes has to say! Forbes features Pre-Paid Legal (again) as a Top 200 Best Small Company in the USA, but featured them #1 for Return On Equity for the 2nd year in a row! Forbes Top 200 Companies 2009

You would think that Forbes with all their subscribers, millions of dollars, & their reputation on the line would actually know how to do their homework...

But you go ahead and do your homework on this rediculous site instead of doing it properly at a library & see how far that gets you in life.

Do you think get-rich-quick schemes that operate for about 2 months max publish books in your local library? Or experts publish books outing them in your local library? Think about it.

Again - this isn't about PPL. It is about BlastOff.

Hey if you want to go to your library and look for BlastOff info, good luck. See how far that gets you.

[Siegmund]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

Interesting. I would definitely dub you the stats person of the group. I'll have to dig some more about this.

oh the sexual tension...

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by believer123

While we are comparing blast off to Wal mart..... Do you think that the cashiers at Wal mart feel like they got a "life changing oppurtunity" when they were hired. I dont know too many but I doubt it. Thats kinda what you are for Blast off Just a lowly little cashier, puttin in the hours for the big man. At least at walmart you know how much you will make, and you can pretty much count on wal mart running every day.

He's talking about PPL, not Blastoff.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by Siegmund

oh the sexual tension...

And you must be Siegmund Freud?

[Fritz Gerlich]

Forbes top 200 list uses profitability and sales growth as their criteria, not ethics, legality, and fairness.

Forbes does NOT look at whether a company is good to work for, or whether the people working for them are making a decent living, or whether or not the workers are being manipulated etc. The top 200 is a list for investors not for workers/entrepreneurs. So the fact ppl is on the list should not be used as a reason to start working for them, or as proof of ppl's goodness.

[Cornelius]

Associates do not work for Pre-Paid Legal. They are not employees.

[nomaxim]

Originally Posted by Cornelius

Associates do not work for Pre-Paid Legal. They are not employees.

Have you ever received a 1099 from them?

[SaucyJack]

Originally Posted by nomaxim

Have you ever received a 1099 from them?

Cornelius is probably correct here, associates are not employees. They're likely independent contractors or designated as such, and will get a 1099-MISC if their earning are over $600. Can't imagine PPL sends out too many of those, though.

[msling]

[QUOTE Hi Jim,
The Pizza Hut launch was a tricky issue for us. When we postponed the PPL launch the 2nd time we were able to push our other marketing partners as well as our own public launch back to accomodate the the PPL 2 week exclusive. Unfortunately we were told by Pizza Hut that they already had print ads that were in cycle that could not be stopped. We immediately informed PPL of this and have agreed to run additional PPL Business Opportunity advertisements on all Blastoff Home Pages as a concession.

Thanks for your involvement Jim and good luck!

Bill Rodgers
CEO[/quote]

What a sick, dirty MLM scheme. Ok, I like MLMs, but this is just a nasty one. Blastoff is using Pizza Hut and PPL and their employees/associates to expand their company? This is just dumb. Worst "dirty MLM" ive seen in a while!

[KDM7000]

This is funny...

Now... the reason I am here is because I've been hearing this "blastoff talk" floating around the household for a while, then received an email from my aunt in Boston days ago, finally opened it, and it was about this. That reminded me to finally come check out this thing that I kept hearing about, which I've come to the conclusion that Blastoff is the name of it. There was also talk about it on facebook...etc.

So what do I do naturally when faced with the decision of whether or not it's a scam? Check google and see what people are saying, and that's how I discovered this one scam page where people are talking about it. So I read.... lalalalala... and after a while, I figure I could read and read and read, only to get to the end and find out - I'm still in the exact same position I was in since the beginning!!! - wondering "so is it legitimate or not?"

So, now I must use logic and common sense to figure out which decision I want to make.

I'm at this site, have no idea what it's about (exactly what twitter and facebook were to me when I first signed up...) and I'm debating "what shall I do?" I see a video talking about people who made "all this money" and sad stories about how you need to be financially prepared for unexpected life changes. My first thought? "Run away!!!..." BUT, then I stopped and thought "Wait, but when my aunt started her business, they told the same type of stories at her presentations, and I know my aunt is not a scam..." So I stick around and think a bit more. "Why is there quite a bit of blastoff talk going on, but only one scam page?" Well, that could be because either
A - it's a scam and people haven't figured it out yet,or
B - it's not a scam, but there are always going to be people who've been hurt before (just like in relationships) who immediately decide to distrust and look for signs in anything to fulfill their distrust.

Still... Doesn't tell me whether or not it's a scam.

So now I must take another route and ask myself; If I do decide to just try it out and see what happens, would the possibility of being hurt or losing out be more if I
A - sign up and try? or
B - don't sing up and wait?

Well.... All I can say is I'm not an expert on business AT ALL, and I am one that SERIOUSLY needs to learn how to work business stuff like this. I'm pretty much dumb when it comes to business and using everyday tools to turn it into profit and building the pyramid, however, one thing I am an expert at is logical and common sense thinking, and without getting any further into full, precise detail on why I come to my final conclusion, I'll just say; Based on everything that has been presented to me so far on this blastoff thing, I cannot fully come to make up my mind that it's a scam.

Why?

Because I do detect certain things here that give off indications that this might not be a scam (instead of vice versa). Many of the things going on here reflect the same business "techniques" many legitimate businesses of this type have, including the one my aunt has started up, which of course I'd know is not a scam. It's one of those businesses where you CAN, but do not HAVE to sign up or make money if you don't wish to, and everyone will get different results (if they choose to sign up and try) but the possibility is definitely there. Only difference is that this is more of an online version of it. This is not like Blue Hippo dot com or other things where you buy something, then you are tricked by slick wording and fine print on how to get a rebate or you didn't send in payment properly so extra charges...etc.

One thing I do know is that every business man is not going to be perfect, so in every situation, the man behind the business is not always going to know the specific answer to every question, and the man who does will not always be the one interested in posting on sites or talking to "outsiders" directly. Another thing I know is that everything will always be a scam to the people who don't benefit or get what they wish out of whatever they were dealing with. I can't assume 100% that this is not a "scam" or something that could hurt you financially, but... there's quite a bit of evidence suggesting that this is legitimate.

Lastly, I should mention that most things are not scams, it's just that people misunderstand certain things, then get "off results" based on the misunderstanding, then when it doesn't turn out to be what was expected based on the misunderstanding, they get upset and call it a scam. When you really think about it, many apartment leases and other things out there could be considered scams because then know damn well nobody is really going to read all that!! It is also unfortunate that some people do take advantage of slick wording arrangements that could be used to deceive people, but... when it comes to blastoff, despite the one scam page and the endless pages of arguments, it seems to be more on the "legitimate" side.

For every company, there are always people to praise or complain and say what they wish, while that company continues to go on. I guess, the only thing you can do in this case is try it and see, ESPECIALLY when you don't have to pay for anything to try or sign up. As far as email spam or viruses or spyware, that's a whole different story.. I don't know about that. As a matter of fact, I'd me more worried about that than the fact that I could lose money on a free site. If my song from Itunes or cd from some store doesn't show up? Big deal. Then I'll know...

One question: How will this site help me out once I move to London? ...or I'm guessing it will work there too?

[getingwats]

As the rate of DNA sequencing increases, analysis by sequence similarity search will need to become much more efficient in terms of sensitivity, specificity, automation potential, and consistency in annotation. *****BLAST was developed, in part, to address these problems. *****BLAST includes a number of options for masking repetitive elements and low complexity subsequences

[Fritz Gerlich]

Originally Posted by Cornelius

Associates do not work for Pre-Paid Legal. They are not employees.

I'm not using 'work for' in the legal sense of being an payroll employee. Rather, I'm using the definition of 'work for' as expending physical/mental effort in accomplishing or producing something for a company/person. I don't see any problem in saying sub-contractors work for the contractor, or mml drones work for the mml company; but maybe there is a better way of saying it.

[Fritz Gerlich]

KDM7000,

I think you're asking the wrong question. Is it a scam, as in being fraud? maybe, it's too early to tell.

However, you can see that they do use unsavory techniques, extreme hyperbole, and outright lies to get people into their sphere and they encourage others to do the same. You might want to ask this instead: 'is doing this something I can be proud of?'

[hollerash]

"Charles Kimball replied 4 days ago
I'm scratching my head over the lack of response, too, though I stayed on my computer until the launch problems stopped and sent out my invitations then.

As a Christian, I am starting to understand how God felt when He offered the world a free gift (salvation) and few people took it. I joined Blastoff without hesitation because at the convention in Las Vegas, I saw and believed. So did my sponsor and those of my downline who were there. Blessed are those who have not seen and believed!"
http://www.getsatisfaction.com/blast..._in_my_network

This thread has been an interesting read, but the above statement just sickens me. Seriously? Comparing this marketing venture for pure gain to Christianity? Though I'm not Christian myself, I would be completely up in arms if someone attempted to compare what I sincerely believe in and put my faith into to something this questionable. What an affront to 1000+ years of a religion!!

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by KDM7000

This is funny...

Now... the reason I am here is because I've been hearing this "blastoff talk" floating around the household for a while, then received an email from my aunt in Boston days ago, finally opened it, and it was about this. That reminded me to finally come check out this thing that I kept hearing about, which I've come to the conclusion that Blastoff is the name of it. There was also talk about it on facebook...etc.

So what do I do naturally when faced with the decision of whether or not it's a scam? Check google and see what people are saying, and that's how I discovered this one scam page where people are talking about it. So I read.... lalalalala... and after a while, I figure I could read and read and read, only to get to the end and find out - I'm still in the exact same position I was in since the beginning!!! - wondering "so is it legitimate or not?"

So, now I must use logic and common sense to figure out which decision I want to make.

I'm at this site, have no idea what it's about (exactly what twitter and facebook were to me when I first signed up...) and I'm debating "what shall I do?" I see a video talking about people who made "all this money" and sad stories about how you need to be financially prepared for unexpected life changes. My first thought? "Run away!!!..." BUT, then I stopped and thought "Wait, but when my aunt started her business, they told the same type of stories at her presentations, and I know my aunt is not a scam..." So I stick around and think a bit more. "Why is there quite a bit of blastoff talk going on, but only one scam page?" Well, that could be because either
A - it's a scam and people haven't figured it out yet,or
B - it's not a scam, but there are always going to be people who've been hurt before (just like in relationships) who immediately decide to distrust and look for signs in anything to fulfill their distrust.

Still... Doesn't tell me whether or not it's a scam.

So now I must take another route and ask myself; If I do decide to just try it out and see what happens, would the possibility of being hurt or losing out be more if I
A - sign up and try? or
B - don't sing up and wait?

Well.... All I can say is I'm not an expert on business AT ALL, and I am one that SERIOUSLY needs to learn how to work business stuff like this. I'm pretty much dumb when it comes to business and using everyday tools to turn it into profit and building the pyramid, however, one thing I am an expert at is logical and common sense thinking, and without getting any further into full, precise detail on why I come to my final conclusion, I'll just say; Based on everything that has been presented to me so far on this blastoff thing, I cannot fully come to make up my mind that it's a scam.

Why?

Because I do detect certain things here that give off indications that this might not be a scam (instead of vice versa). Many of the things going on here reflect the same business "techniques" many legitimate businesses of this type have, including the one my aunt has started up, which of course I'd know is not a scam. It's one of those businesses where you CAN, but do not HAVE to sign up or make money if you don't wish to, and everyone will get different results (if they choose to sign up and try) but the possibility is definitely there. Only difference is that this is more of an online version of it. This is not like Blue Hippo dot com or other things where you buy something, then you are tricked by slick wording and fine print on how to get a rebate or you didn't send in payment properly so extra charges...etc.

One thing I do know is that every business man is not going to be perfect, so in every situation, the man behind the business is not always going to know the specific answer to every question, and the man who does will not always be the one interested in posting on sites or talking to "outsiders" directly. Another thing I know is that everything will always be a scam to the people who don't benefit or get what they wish out of whatever they were dealing with. I can't assume 100% that this is not a "scam" or something that could hurt you financially, but... there's quite a bit of evidence suggesting that this is legitimate.

Lastly, I should mention that most things are not scams, it's just that people misunderstand certain things, then get "off results" based on the misunderstanding, then when it doesn't turn out to be what was expected based on the misunderstanding, they get upset and call it a scam. When you really think about it, many apartment leases and other things out there could be considered scams because then know damn well nobody is really going to read all that!! It is also unfortunate that some people do take advantage of slick wording arrangements that could be used to deceive people, but... when it comes to blastoff, despite the one scam page and the endless pages of arguments, it seems to be more on the "legitimate" side.

For every company, there are always people to praise or complain and say what they wish, while that company continues to go on. I guess, the only thing you can do in this case is try it and see, ESPECIALLY when you don't have to pay for anything to try or sign up. As far as email spam or viruses or spyware, that's a whole different story.. I don't know about that. As a matter of fact, I'd me more worried about that than the fact that I could lose money on a free site. If my song from Itunes or cd from some store doesn't show up? Big deal. Then I'll know...

One question: How will this site help me out once I move to London? ...or I'm guessing it will work there too?

Hi KDM,
Here's a quote from a Blastoff rep: "Some day Blastoff hopes to be international, at this time you are welcome to join and grow your network, but rewards will not be paid out internationally." Hope that somewhat answers your question.

There are definitely many people on this board who've taken an extreme anti-Blastoff stance and will probably stick to that no matter how things play out in the future. This forum, by default, is very biased and shouldn't be your end-source for information.

Although there currently isn't much unbiased information to be found on the Internet from either side, neutral coverage should be forthcoming in the near future upon the public launch of Blastoff. I recommend checking back occasionally to see the latest on Blastoff.

[mumei101]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

Hi KDM,
Here's a quote from a Blastoff rep: "Some day Blastoff hopes to be international, at this time you are welcome to join and grow your network, but rewards will not be paid out internationally." Hope that somewhat answers your question.

There are definitely many people on this board who've taken an extreme anti-Blastoff stance and will probably stick to that no matter how things play out in the future. This forum, by default, is very biased and shouldn't be your end-source for information.

Although there currently isn't much unbiased information to be found on the Internet from either side, neutral coverage should be forthcoming in the near future upon the public launch of Blastoff. I recommend checking back occasionally to see the latest on Blastoff.

This forum is full of people who stand nothing to gain by BlastOff fizzling out, which it will. The people defending it *think* they have something to gain. What does that tell you?

Resellers have already dropped BlastOff because of misuse of trademarks and logos, unethical advertising by members and the deceptive way it markets its involvement with resellers.

This is the sort of behaviour that is directly encouraged and induced by these sorts of hype driven schemes that promise or imply "life changing" opportunities that is left in the hands of its members.
This has been confirmed time and time again as hundreds of these types of schemes just inevitably fizzle out leaving its members confused as to why their early involvment hasnt made them financially worry free.

Everywhere people look these days you're likely to see unethical advertising like spammed blogs, false testimonials or affiliate links in forums like this. Its schemes like BlastOff that induce this and it should be stopped for good.

[Cornelius]

Mumei101 you have been calling Blastoff a scheme for the longest yet it has launched and it has partnered with Pizza Hut as told by posters. You blame the whole because of a few. Blastoff has launched with Pre-paid legal. Blastoff has launched with Pizza hut. Blastoff is going to have their national launch and their mall has many different merchants...Now you say Blastoff is going to "fizzle out".. At what poinbt do we all just move on?

[mumei101]

You blame the whole because of a few.

No, actually I blame BlastOff.

I think I'll see this through to the bitter end. Whats the public launch going to do? Anyone who has even heard of this scheme was invited so they can join anyway. Opening it up to the public wont make any difference.

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by mumei101

No, actually I blame BlastOff.

I think I'll see this through to the bitter end. Whats the public launch going to do? Anyone who has even heard of this scheme was invited so they can join anyway. Opening it up to the public wont make any difference.

We're back to "scheme" now instead of just misleading advertising?

[mumei101]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

We're back to "scheme" now instead of just misleading advertising?

schemes quicker to say. its just semantics.

[spittenimage]

Originally Posted by believer123

While we are comparing blast off to Wal mart..... Do you think that the cashiers at Wal mart feel like they got a "life changing oppurtunity" when they were hired. I dont know too many but I doubt it. Thats kinda what you are for Blast off Just a lowly little cashier, puttin in the hours for the big man. At least at walmart you know how much you will make, and you can pretty much count on wal mart running every day.

There's a very important concept that should open your eyes when looking at your Utopian J.O.B. lifestyle. It's called leverage. An employee has zero leverage. So when that Walmart employee gets sick or they have an emergency well... you are right an employee knows exactly what they'll make because once anything happens to them being able to work their income stops as well. And they know that day they took off from work their income will be zero.

Blastoff is FREE, nobody has said anything about quitting your job to build a Blastoff network. That's just dumb. But building it while your not at work builds the leverage of having more people then just yourself contribute to your income. That's LEVERAGE, without it you'll always be stuck "knowing how much you will make"

It's such simple logic, it eludes me why so many argue against it. Just ask yourself one question. Which is better? Only you contributing to your income or tens of thousands contributing to your income? ummmm hmmm

BTW, there are some very easy ways to go thru your Blastoff page to save you money on some everyday purchases. It's a no brainer, wouldn't you like to save up to an additional 15% on a purchase you were going to make anyways??

[ldinlove]

Originally Posted by mumei101

schemes quicker to say. its just semantics.

You spin so well you could make a wool coat in an hour flat.

[spittenimage]

Originally Posted by mumei101

Do you think get-rich-quick schemes that operate for about 2 months max publish books in your local library? Or experts publish books outing them in your local library? Think about it.

Again - this isn't about PPL. It is about BlastOff.

Hey if you want to go to your library and look for BlastOff info, good luck. See how far that gets you.

LOL you've never been in a library if you think all that's in them are published novels. Either that or you simply don't know how to use it. You go to a library because they have OH GUESS WHAT? THIRD PARTY PUBLICATIONS. You can cross reference news papers, magazines, do background checks.. need I say more? You've got to be out of your mind to think you can't research a newly launched company at a library.

And PPL is the main partner to Blastoff, so yes it's about both. Especially since Blastoff partnered with PPL for their reputation over the last 37 YEARS. The simple fact that a 37 year old company, that's been ranked top 200 in the US EIGHT times, is backing Blastoff shows it's much more then your uneducated "scheme" opinion.

Once again this anonymous user mumumei101 is a prime example of why this site is not a proper tool for research. Too many of these lonely attention seeking trolls come on and throw their opinion out like its gold when in reality it's garbage with absolutely no sound theory, evidence, or even a well thought out arguement. Do yourself a favor and get off this site before the trolls drag you under their dark, gloomy, scummy, stank bridge.

[spittenimage]

Originally Posted by Fritz Gerlich

Forbes top 200 list uses profitability and sales growth as their criteria, not ethics, legality, and fairness.

Forbes does NOT look at whether a company is good to work for, or whether the people working for them are making a decent living, or whether or not the workers are being manipulated etc. The top 200 is a list for investors not for workers/entrepreneurs. So the fact ppl is on the list should not be used as a reason to start working for them, or as proof of ppl's goodness.

So what do you do when you see someone wearing Nike's? Do you throw a plastic bag over their head and beat em for supporting the companies overseas labor practices? I bet you don't say a damn thing except maybe oh! those are nice shoes, how do you like them? How much? Huh! I'm going to go check em out!

So what about being #1 on return of equity? Guess that says nothing about what really matters right? yea.. you're right money doesn't matter in our world. I mean who the hell needs shelter and FOOD? Pft such over rated "necessities".

[mumei101]

Originally Posted by ldinlove

You spin so well you could make a wool coat in an hour flat.

a "scheme" is a very vague term and can be used to replace the term "misleading hype" very well thankyou.

The term "scheme" can be used in both a good and bad context and merely refers to a program or structure of some sort.

i.e. a refurbishment scheme or a MLM scheme.

I think its rather audacious to accuse me of using spin when you are a PPL and BlastOff member! You guys have to use so much spin to decieve people into joining your "life changing opportunity" Im surprised any of you can walk straight you'd be so dizzy.

In the meantime - buy a thesaurus.