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Old 05-03-2009, 06:25 AM
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Regenesis 2x2

Seems to be taking off like crazy. Not able to get much info or discover who the owner is. Not a negative review anywhere on the web.

This sounds too good to be true.

No recruiting required - one time payment of $325 buys you a "commission center" which activates the automated recruiting center and 300 biz opp seeker leads (that's the product).

They claim a passive member can join, do nothing, and earn $1200 per month in commissions because the company does the marketing and places people in the matrix. Active members are told they can of course make far more.

Wondering if some of you who are experienced at digging up info, can find something? I've about given up.

Here's the site:
http://www.regenesis2x2.com

This is their FAQ
http://www.regenesis2x2.com/d.cgi/company/faq.html

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Old 05-03-2009, 10:35 AM
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Re: Regenesis 2x2

its seems you are advertising this matrix. yes, of course, there is a new matrix or two started everyday. they all require you to send money to somebody you do not know and hope you will be on a list to have people send money to you. to me, it doesn't matter at all what the name of the website is or who is operating it.






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Old 05-03-2009, 10:53 AM
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No, I'm not advertising it. That link is the main site, not an affiliate site.

I'm not in it, but I do know of a few people who are. I'm worried for them and their reputation, and just wanted to get some actual facts so they could make an INFORMED decision.

My efforts to find details came up empty and I am aware that there are some pretty good detectives here.

I'm just looking for the truth for those who will be lured to this program by the promise of big money with zero effort.



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Old 05-03-2009, 11:06 AM
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Re: Regenesis 2x2

not too long ago, there was an in person "matrix" going around. people were invited to a meeting, and then offered a ticket on an imaginary airplane, for some amount of money, say, $500. when the airplane was full, the pilot and copilot split the money and the passengers all moved forward, to someday be pilot and copilot. every warning i heard said that police considered it a con game, a crime, and would presecute.

this is worse. you all send your money to the pilot and you don't know him and can't find him. a bad idea doesn't become a good idea just because its on the internet.



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Regenesis 2X2?

What is this and what is it all about? Does anyone know? I guess this is the new fad online...the whole 2x2 matrix and rotating or something, anyway...

If anyone has some info about this or is involved please let me know, thanks.



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Old 05-13-2009, 08:29 AM
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this is a scam. thanks for trying to spam the forum idiot "trusty"

ken russo is one of the big pimps for this scam. big surprise



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Old 05-15-2009, 06:46 PM
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Hi

I'm new here.... Who is Ken Russo? How do you know he's involved? I joined and am now a bit concerned.



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Did you check it out before you joined? What was the reason you joined?




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Hi

A friend of mine joined that already made money with it. I goggled it and didn't see anything negative about it. So joined just last week. I found this site looking up something else and thought I would search regenesis. So, back to my original question. I now know who Ken Russo is, but how do you know he is associated with this company? Nothing about that comes up with a google search and I don't know where else to look.



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Ken Russo is in ReGenesis I believe. I found this thread on this site who has that name: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=114966

I don't know if he is the same Ken Russo in ReGenesis and I am not making any judgments about this guy as I don't know him.

However, at this point I don't believe ReGenesis to be a scam. They are paying and aren't hiding from their members. Stopscammers, please do your due diligence before claiming a program is a scam. At the very least if you want to make a claim, provide evidence with it and not just because another member who MIGHT have a bad history is currently in it.

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Re: Regenesis 2x2

While this is not a scam in the true sense it is a business that preys upon the greed of people. Yes you will get a list of potential recruits to contact to pitch unsurpassed wealth while doing nothing. this is no different than the greed of the Wall Street mortgage bundlers who were pushing paper to those people who did not want to know what really was happening as long as they were making money.

I also notices while looking at 'regenesis scam' search, the people who are preying on others with this 'money for nothing' are posting under the scam that it is a legitimate business. Give me $325 and I'll send you a list of 300 people who you then have to convince them to send $325 to someone you don't even know? Mumbles was correct. This is a bigger con game than the airplane ever was.




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what's the product you aare paying all the mkoney for? this is a typical ponzi and ken russo will be going to jail soon. people are fed up with his senseless pimping of obvious ponzi scams



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No, I'm not advertising it. That link is the main site, not an affiliate site.

I'm not in it, but I do know of a few people who are. I'm worried for them and their reputation, and just wanted to get some actual facts so they could make an INFORMED decision.

My efforts to find details came up empty and I am aware that there are some pretty good detectives here.

I'm just looking for the truth for those who will be lured to this program by the promise of big money with zero effort.
The company leader JW appears in the live info calls, the weekly training calls, and answers emails himself in a timely fashion if sent directly to him. People are getting paid for this. Passive members can and are earning through the company's patented and trademark automatic recruiting system where people are sponsored into the matrix for you. Active members will earn much more especially because of the 100% matching bonuses when those you sponsor cycle back into your matrix. ReGenesis is approved by 3 attorney generals. It started off as an offline company called Genesis and when moved online, was termed ReGenesis. Membership is doubling every month. They now have over 9,000 members.

With the activation of a commission center you get access to the back office, your own company replicated website, autoresponder, 300 leads, market and training support - live calls /follow up letters, and the company's ARS (automatic recruiting system).

This is a toll free info line (4-5 min. long): 1-800-676-8530

Do you have any specific questions?

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what's the product you aare paying all the mkoney for? this is a typical ponzi and ken russo will be going to jail soon. people are fed up with his senseless pimping of obvious ponzi scams
according to the website, the product is leads....

bad program? yes, all 2x2 programs are bad

scam? probably not, but still a bad program



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ReGenesis is approved by 3 attorney generals.
Billy, you will of course provide documentation for that, right??? Attorneys General never approve or endorse businesses that I am aware of. It is not in their mandate in the great state of Texas I can assure you!

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what's the product you aare paying all the mkoney for? this is a typical ponzi and ken russo will be going to jail soon. people are fed up with his senseless pimping of obvious ponzi scams
With the activation of a commission center you get access to the back office, your own company replicated website splash page, autoresponder, 300 leads, market and training support - live calls /follow up letters, and the company's ARS (automatic recruiting system).

This is a toll free info line (4-5 min. long): 1-800-676-8530

The company leader JW appears in the live info calls, the weekly training calls, and answers emails himself in a timely fashion if sent directly to him. People are getting paid for this. Passive members can and are earning through the company's patented and trademark automatic recruiting system where people are sponsored into the matrix for you. Active members will earn much more especially because of the 100% matching bonuses when those you sponsor cycle back into your matrix. ReGenesis is approved by 3 attorney generals. It started off as an offline company called Genesis and when moved online, was termed ReGenesis. Membership is doubling every month. They now have over 9,000 members.

I can understand if this program doesn't suit you, but they are paying out and continue doing so while providing good support.

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With the activation of a commission center you get access to the back office, your own company replicated website splash page, autoresponder, 300 leads, market and training support - live calls /follow up letters, and the company's ARS (automatic recruiting system).

This is a toll free info line (4-5 min. long): 1-800-676-8530

The company leader JW appears in the live info calls, the weekly training calls, and answers emails himself in a timely fashion if sent directly to him. People are getting paid for this. Passive members can and are earning through the company's patented and trademark automatic recruiting system where people are sponsored into the matrix for you. Active members will earn much more especially because of the 100% matching bonuses when those you sponsor cycle back into your matrix. ReGenesis is approved by 3 attorney generals. It started off as an offline company called Genesis and when moved online, was termed ReGenesis. Membership is doubling every month. They now have over 9,000 members.

I can understand if this program doesn't suit you, but they are paying out and continue doing so while providing good support.

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attorneys general do not 'approve' any program...they investigate if there are complaints but there is no 'approval' process...if someone is telling you that, they are mistaken

also, if the membership doubles every month ( as is needed to keep a 2x2 cycling once a month ) how many members will there be in 1 year?



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follow the breadcrumbs to the brick walls :P





First Clue


IPtools whois lookup regenesis2x2


Registrant: PrivacyProtect.org Moergestel Netherlands


well known front for scammers privacy protect pdf





2nd Clue software source


http://www.excel-mlm.com/blog/index....and-vid-engage


http://www.excel-mlm.com/blog/index....ng+2x2+matrix:


http://lotcon.biz/


http://lotcon.net/


http://lotcon.net/aboutus.htm


note the redirects in the first two blog entries to 2x2prosperityformula a slightly more respectable version of regenesis2x2


FRED LOTGERING / lotcon is in Zaandam Netherlands approximately 60 miles away from Moergestel





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Follow the money...to the UPS store

(the Google maps streetview of the stripmall is helpful, also the list of other tenants there )






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Washington Secretary of State Regenesis Marketing Corporation


Registered Agent Bizfilings


(thats 4 brick walls in a row boys and girls)






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follow the "checks"....err I mean money orders (make that a hand addressed, and stamped envelope money order, rather than a corporate check on a real bank account in an envelope it doesnt take 2 minutes to address and add postage to. a theme you will find throughout the 2x2 matrix of BS





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Forced Matrix Opportunities - A Slippery World of Sinkholes - Part 1



"The logical extension of this is that, even though no one started out to conquer the world, a real possibility is created, so to speak, as this doubling effect in only 29 days would have more than 536 million people involved, which would be 236 million more people than reside here in the United States, as we just passed the 300 million mark in population growth. A mere 4 more days would have the matrix at 8.5 billion people involved, which, of course, would not technically be possible since there are currently only slightly more than 6.5 billion people on planet Earth. It is refreshing to encounter someone who thinks big!"


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Billy, you will of course provide documentation for that, right??? Attorneys General never approve or endorse businesses that I am aware of. It is not in their mandate in the great state of Texas I can assure you!

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The 300 leads are not purchased "cold" leads. They are leads collected by the advertising of the legitimate "Automated Recruiting System(tm)" which is trade marked.

In order to be trade marked, the ARS(tm) had to be reviewed by trade mark attorneys for legality, viability and functionality.

The ARS(tm) is a fulfillment service of marketing, advertising, contacting leads, speaking to the leads and signing them up on members behalf. Marketing Fulfillment Services are very common and typically run about 50 to 60 dollars a month plus a percentage of signup fees paid in other companies. So ReGenesis2x2 service is greatly undervalued compared to other services.



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The 300 leads are not purchased "cold" leads. They are leads collected by the advertising of the legitimate "Automated Recruiting System(tm)" which is trade marked.

In order to be trade marked, the ARS(tm) had to be reviewed by trade mark attorneys for legality, viability and functionality.

The ARS(tm) is a fulfillment service of marketing, advertising, contacting leads, speaking to the leads and signing them up on members behalf. Marketing Fulfillment Services are very common and typically run about 50 to 60 dollars a month plus a percentage of signup fees paid in other companies. So ReGenesis2x2 service is greatly undervalued compared to other services.

ReGenesis2x2 is making adjustments to their recruiting efforts to meet the demand and rapidly expanding their advertising for members.



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In order to be trade marked, the ARS(tm) had to be reviewed by trade mark attorneys for legality, viability and functionality.
malarky

all a TM mark means is that your applying for a registered trademark (R in circle) with the USPTO, its simply a place holder any bozo can slap on a mark

I would know
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your spin is wearing thin

PS having searched the USPTO data base, no applications in any category are pending

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What is this and what is it all about?
a pathetic and obvious scam

PS ReGenesis2x2, when you don't know the first thing about patent and trademark law its best to keep quiet



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I made $800.00 Tuesday the 19th of May.
How much did you make?
Is it true what they say? That you use the Library Computer.
I heard that rumor in another forum

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I made $800.00 Tuesday the 19th of May.
How much did you make?
Is it true what they say? That you use the Library Computer.
I heard that rumor in another forum

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yesterday I stopped my friend from shelling out $365 that he was going to use to slot me into his matrix for free

congratulations on your luck with this ponzi scheme, assuming your a real player and not just a shill

but the ride is over or will be soon

as far as "other forums"
anyone is free to google my nic
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You can pay with a Money order
indeed

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no form of easily traceable or charge back capable payment available

while it is sometime difficult to differentiate legitimate multilevel marketing from Ponzi schemes, that is not the case here.

1. your "buying" a list, you want real leads buy a database from TRW. However at more than $1 per name, you all qualify for a "special" bus. :p

2. your not buying software, just access to some "invisible man's" server hosting the software. its IP for the front page assuming the backend isnt being redirected is 74.53.153.226 which is in the UK. A redirect and additional proxies would help obscure the trail when it hits the fan.

3. Cashier's Checks hmmm, have they actually been collected to your account yet? Not credited actually transferred?
If so great, but when its time to take the money and run, the "checks" will magically start to transform

4. post a scan of these "ads" all I see online is a bunch of true believer astroturfed wannabes, nailing everything from ebay to *****slist. Makes for a real nice smoke screen to sort through before you arrive at the brick walls of the real scammers

5. post a number to this call center
(all numbers lead to automated recorded pitches)

the BS in this thread is so thick we should plant a garden :p



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not too long ago, there was an in person "matrix" going around. people were invited to a meeting, and then offered a ticket on an imaginary airplane, for some amount of money, say, $500. when the airplane was full, the pilot and copilot split the money and the passengers all moved forward, to someday be pilot and copilot. every warning i heard said that police considered it a con game, a crime, and would presecute.

this is worse. you all send your money to the pilot and you don't know him and can't find him. a bad idea doesn't become a good idea just because its on the internet.
Over 11000 regenesis2x2 members against three idiots at scam.com

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CASE CLOSED!
nice well-thought-out response....total enrollment is a yardstick for the program's legitimacy?

there were over 100,000 in YMMSS....what does that prove?



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The 300 leads are not purchased "cold" leads. They are leads collected by the advertising of the legitimate "Automated Recruiting System(tm)" which is trade marked.

In order to be trade marked, the ARS(tm) had to be reviewed by trade mark attorneys for legality, viability and functionality.

The ARS(tm) is a fulfillment service of marketing, advertising, contacting leads, speaking to the leads and signing them up on members behalf. Marketing Fulfillment Services are very common and typically run about 50 to 60 dollars a month plus a percentage of signup fees paid in other companies. So ReGenesis2x2 service is greatly undervalued compared to other services.
What a load of crap!

Dude, someone sold you a 'package of goods', and you bought it hook, line, and sinker! If not, then you're one of the people that started it, which would make you a scammer!

I'll give this 'program' a year or so to blow apart, and the people that started it will be off & running to the next great 'Automated Recruiting System', looking for more suckers.

Please...ReGenisis2x2, is a pile...

Sorry, just my honest opinion.

Whoever moved this thread, thanks, I'm glad it was moved from the MLM forum, cause it's not an MLM, at all...it's just another Internet scam.

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nice well-thought-out response....total enrollment is a yardstick for the program's legitimacy?

there were over 100,000 in YMMSS....what does that prove?
It proves there's a sucker born every minute, and selling 'something for nothing', centered on greed is profitable ...initially.



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CASE CLOSED!
Make that four 'idiots', ya greedy scammer...



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Whoever moved this thread, thanks, I'm glad it was moved from the MLM forum, cause it's not an MLM, at all...it's just another Internet scam.

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i would like to know who moved it and why

the program is not an internet program....sure there are ads on the internet but the program is 'old school'

you cannot pay online,
you don't get paid online,
there is no online payment processor,
all money is paid money orders and cashiers checks

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don't worry. the 2 biggest ponzi pimp scammers (faith sloan and the infamous ponzi pimp ken russo) have moved onto their next ponzi scam called hollywood-ads.com

so this 2x2 will lose the luster that faith and ken used to bring in all the sheep that will now be left to fend for themselves in this ponzi



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Over 11000 regenesis2x2 members against three idiots at scam.com

CASE CLOSED!
Poor math skills are pretty much a prerequisite for you to get that "special bus" :p

lets see
there are currently
125,039 members to this forum
over a half a million posts
3665 sites linking into the forum
who knows how many hyperlinks out of the forum

what does that mean?

it means that the search term
"regenesis ponzi"

points directly to this thread as the very first return, where I chose to drive the definitive nails into this particular coffin

no one in thier right mind is going to send a $365 money order to a UPS store PO box :p

you asked about my qualifications
Im an ex Forum Admin, more importantly Im a talented seeker.

The scammers made a decent stab at obscuring this ponzi scheme with a high noise to signal ratio. But I know exactly how to counter that in search returns, soon other more obvious search queries will point to this thread.

Oh and the Police will have the UPS store staked out :p



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Every time I come on here to check out a business no matter what it is, its always the same ole cr**!..

So much negativity with nothing good to say ON ANY BUSINESS.

Regenesis paid me $1200 for being passive in 5 weeks so who's scamming who. Regenesis 2x2 is for real BUT.......how long it stays around is another question? I predict 1-2 years as it really does solve all the marketing problems associated with cyclers and that is people joining. They do it all for you.

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Every time I come on here to check out a business no matter what it is, its always the same ole cr**!..

So much negativity with nothing good to say ON ANY BUSINESS.

Regenesis paid me $1200 for being passive in 5 weeks so who's scamming who. Regenesis 2x2 is for real BUT.......how long it stays around is another question? I predict 1-2 years as it really does solve all the marketing problems associated with cyclers and that is people joining. They do it all for you.

You negative people need to get a life...............I will just keep cashing my checks every 4-5 weeks...
Gee, greed is sooo becoming on you!

Jus show me the money!

....who cares how long it lasts, as long as YOU get paid, right?!



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Every time I come on here to check out a business no matter what it is, its always the same ole cr**!..

So much negativity with nothing good to say ON ANY BUSINESS.

Regenesis paid me $1200 for being passive in 5 weeks so who's scamming who. Regenesis 2x2 is for real BUT.......how long it stays around is another question? I predict 1-2 years as it really does solve all the marketing problems associated with cyclers and that is people joining. They do it all for you.

You negative people need to get a life...............I will just keep cashing my checks every 4-5 weeks...
please do the math, over 10,000 members, you want to cash a check every 4 weeks....for everyone to cycle the number of members will have to double

it cannot last 1-2 years and cycle every 30 days.....again do the math



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Every time I come on here to check out a business no matter what it is, its always the same ole cr**!..

So much negativity with nothing good to say ON ANY BUSINESS.
too bad its not a business

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A business (also called a firm or an enterprise) is a legally recognized organization designed to provide goods and/or services to consumers.
1. not legal
2. provides neither goods or services

its a con, a Ponzi scheme
(read fraudulent investment scheme)
it is impossible to sustain and offers no real goods or services

your complete and utter ignorance of what constitutes a business is only matched by your duplicity in perpetuating this fraud.

The shills are certainly coming out of the woodwork. :p



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I just got a email from jl "passport to wealth pyramid scheme to join this PYRAMID SCAM" Federal Trade Commission SAID ppw was a pyramid scam!! JUST DON'T DO IT!! Go to RipOFFReport.com blessings unlimited scam!!!



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i would like to know who moved it and why

the program is not an internet program....sure there are ads on the internet but the program is 'old school'

you cannot pay online,
you don't get paid online,
there is no online payment processor,
all money is paid money orders and cashiers checks

again hardly an 'internet' program
They have SolidTrust Pay as an option. If not, it would be hard for international members to participate too.



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I just got a email from jl "passport to wealth pyramid scheme to join this PYRAMID SCAM" Federal Trade Commission SAID ppw was a pyramid scam!! JUST DON'T DO IT!! Go to RipOFFReport.com blessings unlimited scam!!!
I don't have an opinion on PP2W as I have never been in it so I can't make a fair judgement, but don't get PP2W and ReGenesis 2x2 mixed up.



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RED FLAG for me is alertpay /or safepay will accept matrices.
Why isn't Regenisis using them?
I am skeptical about sending someone $325.
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indeed

6th Clue
no form of easily traceable or charge back capable payment available

while it is sometime difficult to differentiate legitimate multilevel marketing from Ponzi schemes, that is not the case here.

1. your "buying" a list, you want real leads buy a database from TRW. However at more than $1 per name, you all qualify for a "special" bus. :p

2. your not buying software, just access to some "invisible man's" server hosting the software. its IP for the front page assuming the backend isnt being redirected is 74.53.153.226 which is in the UK. A redirect and additional proxies would help obscure the trail when it hits the fan.

3. Cashier's Checks hmmm, have they actually been collected to your account yet? Not credited actually transferred?
If so great, but when its time to take the money and run, the "checks" will magically start to transform

4. post a scan of these "ads" all I see online is a bunch of true believer astroturfed wannabes, nailing everything from ebay to *****slist. Makes for a real nice smoke screen to sort through before you arrive at the brick walls of the real scammers

5. post a number to this call center
(all numbers lead to automated recorded pitches)

the BS in this thread is so thick we should plant a garden :p



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I don't have an opinion on PP2W as I have never been in it so I can't make a fair judgement, but don't get PP2W and ReGenesis 2x2 mixed up.
I'am not getting the two mixed up Like i said, I received a Email from JL Promoting Regenesis 2x2 ,JL was with PP2W Which is a PYRAMID SCAM!!
RED FLAG!! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!!!



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What I can see is that you are making assumptions. The owners of PP2W (Darren Gaudry) and ReGenesis (JW) are two completely different people. If they were the same leaders I can see a valid argument. They are not. Why don't you do some research and maybe call some people up who are actually in the program and see how it has been working out for them. If you find that a majority of them have bad reviews, then fine. You may have something there, but don't just speculate. I for one am in it and have been paid and would be happy to speak to anyone about it whether by phone, email, or instant messaging.

Terre, you are entitled to your opinion. Nothing is every a guarantee, whatever business it is. The stock market for instance isn't either. Would it be better for you if the program was $20? Or would you say "no, I'm skeptical about sending a company that"



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Let's see. I became a member of Regenesis on May 3 and I paid 300 plus the 25 admin fee. I have received 2 Bank of America checks each for $800 and because I'm paid in arrears about 2 weeks, I know I have another $1200 coming so far because I'm on my 4th cycle and one of my enrollees just cycled. I have not been passive. I have worked diligently in my business and spent alot of time recruiting others who have also received a check. If this is a scam, sign me up for another one! I have one ARS sponsored member and am still owed 1. If it doesn't come for another month, I wouldn't care. They do what they say and pay on time. If it slows to cycling every month to every 6 months, I will get paid and I fully intend to retire on this. As an insurance sales pro, I've paid as much as $20 for a lead, know that websites aren't cheap and would pay greatly to have someone recruit 2 other members for me in any opportunity. Sounds like a great product and a valuable service to me. While you guys debate the legitimacy of Regenesis, real people all over the world are getting paid big money from a small investment and a little promotion. A completed 2x2 matrix is $1800 with $1200 paid in commission. Regenesis then buys your way back in under your sponsors current matrix with the remaining $600 left and you go all over again leaving $300 for Regenesis to pay their bills. They are left with a satisfied client and a small profit. What's so hard to understand? Cowboy up and get on with business! Regenesis 2x2 is changing my life and I'm able to do alot of good with my commissions. Keep your fear of success far away from me. I'll have 100 members by the end of this year and a business earning thousands each week and you all will still be here saying the same things with your thumbs up your collective butts. I am happy to discuss Regenesis with anyone and I post videos of my checks each week as I open them on YouTube. I'm an ordinary average guy but I dream big dreams and pursue my life's passion. I only wish more people did the same.


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The usual response from the delirious. Just because a program is paying doesn't make it legal! This IS an illegal ponzi using the funds from new to pay old!

This has already been reported to the authorities and will close soon!



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The usual response from the deliriously stupid. Just because a program is legal and is paying doesn't make you smart enough to realize itl! This IS NOT an illegal ponzi using the funds from new to pay old!

This has already been reported to the authorities and will be completely exonerated soon!




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we shall see moron!

You will be gone for good anyways once this ponzi collapses



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nice well-thought-out response....total enrollment is a yardstick for the program's legitimacy?

there were over 100,000 in YMMSS....what does that prove?
Very true.

Ymmss, Ezwbd, reality millions, PIN, etc, etc...

This is just the latest and greatest (haha) money scheme on the net.

ALL these programs are money games.
Is it a scam? Yes.
However with all these programs, if you get in early
you can make money. It's the gullible people that come in
later that end up losing money.

These programs have a short life span. Most last around a few months or less.

To all those who got in early and make money in this scheme, remember where you got it when the program collapses.
You are parasites making money off the loss of others.



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Very true.

Ymmss, Ezwbd, reality millions, PIN, etc, etc...

This is just the latest and greatest (haha) money scheme on the net.

ALL these programs are money games.
Is it a scam? Yes.
However with all these programs, if you get in early
you can make money. It's the gullible people that come in
later that end up losing money.

These programs have a short life span. Most last around a few months or less.

To all those who got in early and make money in this scheme, remember where you got it when the program collapses.
You are parasites making money off the loss of others.




Karma's a bitch.
Absolutely!

Spot on!

Most 'greedy peoples' attitude? Who cares?, as long as I get paid.... who cares who gets screwed!

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Absolutely!

Spot on!

Most 'greedy peoples' attitude? Who cares?, as long as I get paid.... who cares who gets screwed!

Pathetic
Indeed.

I can understand if people who are new to these schemes
don't understand it's a money game right away.

However, if you look at who's promoting this, it's the usual suspects, Ken Russo, Britt Phillips, all the money making ponzi scheme forums. ie: moneymakergroup, talkgold.

These parasites who promote these do so with NO conscience. Most have been promoting failed "program" after failed program for YEARS. I believe these programs really started taking off after Ymmss and PIPS gained in popularity.
I could name you hundreds of programs over the years that have come and gone.
Sure you could have made money in some, IF you got in early but always at the expense and loss of those naive gullible ones who got in too late.

Go check out the ASD thread.
A year ago that was the latest and greatest program.
Everyone said it would be around for years and making millionaires of many. LOL

I see the same type of hype marketing going on with
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