12-13-2004, 07:13 PM
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TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
Have any of you heard of TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC? Some of my friends are trying to get me to sign up. Should I do it?
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01-26-2005, 07:35 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
Team National is a great company that's 14 years old and a member of the DSA ( www.dsa.org). The DSA is an organization that regulates direct selling organizations and has very strict qualifiations. They also list suggestions on things to look for in a direct selling company to help you determine if it is a good fit for you. Team National's website is www.bign.com. I joined a few months ago and am very happy with my decision. I researched it thoroughly before joining. Good luck.
I haven't heard of SIMPLE AS ABC.
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02-16-2005, 09:09 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
In my opinion, any company like Team National - www.BigN.com - is bound to be some kind of scam. In order for a person to "make money" they must either buy stuff from selected companies - which seem to sell their stuff at prices that are the same or, in most cases, higher than you could find yourself. You then earn rebate points based on various percentages of the purchase price (at least that is my understanding). You also make "money" by having others buy stuff from these "selected" companies after they first access these companies through your website. If you are paying 20% more than you could've gotten an item for, and you're getting a 10% rebate, you can't come out ahead - and that doesn't include the cost of paying for the privledge of paying too much. Hardly a good business model of using buying *****. If you really want to buy like you are a Fortune 500 company, either build your own company into one - or go to one (WalMart, Best Buy, etc.) and take advantage of the buying ***** pricing that they pass on. Sites like this just fool those who want to take shortcuts in life (once again, in my opinion).
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02-20-2005, 12:36 AM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
TheinBomb - In your other posts, you've made numerous assumptions about Team National and how they make money, so I felt that I needed to copy my response to you to this thread in case others search for Team National and only saw this one. As a result, some of this information may not flow well with this thread. At any rate...
Team National is a member of several prestigious organizations (BBB, Dunn & Bradstreet, Direct Marketers Association, or the U. S. Chamber of Comerce). If they were truly a “scam”, they wouldn’t belong to any of them. I would suggest you research what the Direct Marketers Association is and who belongs to it.
On the subject of furniture, they do discount well known companies, such as Thomasville, American Drew, Lexington, Arnold Palmer (yes, he has represents a furniture company), Basset, Lane, Hooker, Pulaski, Broyhill, and Clayton Marcus, to name few of the 90+ companies. You won’t be able to access this list without a member number, but if you are still interested, I would be more than happy to fax you a list. The prices they get are incredible. It’s virtually impossible to find any company in NC that discounts Thomasville, because they don’t allow it. However, Team National has a deal worked out with them! As an example, I bought a Thomasville armoire (through them at $2178. The Winter Sale price at Thomasville was $2799 (that’s $621/22% less). Price it yourself, if you’re so inclined. The number is (38011-330). To top if off, if you don’t live in NC, you don’t pay taxes! Check out their pool table prices - $2500 less than suggested retail! All in all, pretty good economics!
As far as the BigN goes, I do agree that you must shop around before buying things. Purchasing a website through BigN isn’t for everyone, but for those that shop on-line regularly, they can make back some of their money in commissions. Who wouldn’t want to make some of that money back???
Regarding cars, on January 12, I found a 2004 Chevrolet Tahoe fully load with 4WD, DVD system, leather, OnStar and third seat for $32,555. It only had 10,194 miles on it. That’s $10, 590 less than the MSVP! I realize car lots are moving old inventory, but I think this is a pretty good deal.
If you don’t like saving money, Team National isn’t for you! As mahat1973 mentioned, you don’t have to push the benefits package, if it fits people needs, then great, if not that’s fine too. I think you’ve picked the wrong company to slam.
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04-15-2005, 07:05 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
IF I am not mistaken Simple As ABC - is a the name of a group or team that are represenatives of Ameriplan.
James Chandler
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04-18-2005, 08:01 AM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
Simple As ABC is a link to Ameriplan. I know because I work with Ameriplan! It is a good company, but its not a 'get rich quick' scheme. You have to talk to a lot of people, so if person to person is not your forte, don't try it. But Ameriplan is a very good company, they pay exactly what is promised, it is not a scam. If a friend is trying to sign you up I say go for it, I like working with them. If you work hard, you get exactly the profits they are telling you. I also have another business working online, selling wholesale items online via a dropshipper. In fact, I just flew from Texas to L.A. last wknd to film an infomercial for one of them! That was exciting! I have sold a few items on Ebay, and am in the process of setting up an online storefront. If you are interested in something like that, email me crcheary@earthlink.net You can set up with many dropshippers for free, and start your own online business, but I have signed up with a merchant account (you should have one to accept credit card payments) that also gives you your own personal domain name, lists you in 200 search engines, guarantees you to be placed in the top 2 results pages of 8 major engines, and gets your pay-per-click advertising going for you. All with no upfront costs. I don't work with this company recruiting or anything (No MLM) but I do like to refer people to them, they are helping me get my E-biz up and running a lot faster than I would have been able to do on my own. If you email me I will forward you a phone number to rep within the company. Good luck all and happy hunting!
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08-23-2005, 12:25 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
After reading all the posts about Team National, i really think folks should do their research before slamming a company. Team National is a member of the BBB in Florida, the DSA (Direct Selling Asociation), Dun & Bradstreet, the US Chamber of Commerce. Team National is not a pyramid scam in any fashion, you DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING to become a member and profit from marketing the benefits packages, it may be difficult to market something you do not own yourself, but it IS done by many people. Many people become an Independent Marketing Director, AT NO COST, market the benefits packages, when the receive their commision checks, then they purchase a package, and then they too can realize the savings. Why would companies like Wal-Mart, Office Depot, Wells Fargo, LensCrafters, Best Buy, - just to name a few, partner with a company if said company was in any way a scam, don't you think their attorneys would check them out before signing a partnership aggreement? My advise - go to a "public" overview (meeting) in your area, listen with an open mind. Unlike timeshare presentations, where they twist your arms trying to get you to buy into, Team National strictly prohibits forcing anyone to join, their manuals (free for download) will explain when someone is not interested - thank them for their time and move on to someone that is. Speeking of manuals, training aids etc, Team National's forms and manuals, aids, are free for download, yet can also be purchased if you want the 3 part copies. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND ONE DIME TO BECOME A MEMBER AND PROFIT FROM THE SALES. Please do your research folks.....
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08-29-2005, 05:12 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
Norman, please check out the following Press Release from the Arkansas Insurance Commission:
State Insurance Department Attempting to Collect Claims From Illegal Company
LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS (January 28, 2004) -State Insurance Commissioner Mike Pickens said today the Insurance Department is still working to collect claims from the TRG Marketing LLC case, involving the Indianapolis, Indiana-based company which was ordered to cease operations in the State of Arkansas. In order to facilitate that process, the Insurance Department requested in a letter sent earlier this week, information regarding unpaid claims from TRG enrollees.
"We are working with the marketing companies that were involved in enrolling consumers in the TRG health plan," Commissioner Pickens said. "We hope to reach an amicable resolution with these companies in the very near future."
Members of Team National Inc., purchased TRG product through its Team National Inc. affiliated insurance agency National Health Plan Plus Inc. until the plan was shut down in 2002. Up until that time TRG Marketing had operated as an unauthorized multiple employer welfare arrangement (MEWA) plan. It had falsely claimed both to offer a single employer plan pursuant to the Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA) and to be exempt from State regulation.
The Department of Labor last fall filed a lawsuit against TRG Marketing, LLC alleging the defendants William Paul Crouse and Carmelo Zanfei diverted money targeted to pay health claims for their own personal use, including European family vacations and corporate distribution to themselves and to their spouses. The suit also alleges the company failed to prudently manage its health plan, which resulted in $17.5 million in unpaid claims nationwide.
Currently the Arkansas Insurance Department has identified approximately $300,000 in unpaid claims affecting nearly 50 Arkansans who were enrolled in the TRG Health Plan.
"Although we are not in a position to guarantee those former TRG enrollees that their unpaid claims will be paid, we do promise to aggressively seek to engage all means available to us to do so within the confines of the law, " Commissioner Pickens explained.
Former TRG enrollees are asked to contact Associate Counsel Sara Farris at the Insurance Department with questions on how to present information concerning claims unpaid by TRG. Ms. Farris can be reached at 1-800-282-9134 or 501-371-2820.
The Arkansas Insurance Department is located at 1200 West Third Street (the corner of Third and Cross Streets) in downtown Little Rock. Its primary mission is consumer protection through insurer solvency and market conduct regulation, and fraud prosecution and deterrence.
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01-25-2006, 04:09 AM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
Team National is not a SCAM however some of their methods of getting an IMD (Independent Marketing Director) is seriously questionable. There should be no investment or cost to become an IMD however these where the reasons I was given that it is necessary. #1. If you don’t buy at least the Standard Package you will not get the local support from the current base of IMDs. #2. If you don’t purchase any package they will not provide you with the basic training materials such as phone numbers for testimonials or even the 1-800 number. #3. If you don’t purchase some type of plan how can you expect potential customers to realize that Team National Savings Plan is a good thing?
The representatives whom I dealt with told me that there is no selling required…which to a degree is true and again misleading. Selling begins from the minute you qualify the person that you will have made that 1-800 phone call. Regardless what you call it, selling, marketing, or business development you need to pre-qualify the potential customer’s financial ability to pay/invest to either save or become an IMD. Also, one of the quick pitches I was told to use is, “tell them you aren’t trying to sell them anything you just want someone to practice my presentation on.”
Granted Team National isn’t for everyone…thank God. However Team National relies on the potential customer no opportunity to equate the estimated $2100 or $900 ROI (Return on Investment). And lastly, if greed and money motivate you then you will do very well at it (keep in mind this is just one of many reasons). You will also hear them say that this is not a pyramid however in my opinion is the jury is still out. You get two people and then they get two more people and the list continues. Take that list with a ruler and start at the top to the bottom of the list and if that doesn’t give you a basic pyramid then I need to go back to high school and take my geometry class over.
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01-31-2006, 11:16 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
First of all, if any of your statements are true than you need to put a call into Dick Loehr of the National Companies and provide him with the names of those who told you that information. We are required to follow a strick guide of ethics and anyone violating those guidelines will be reprimanded. The statements made in your posting are completely untrue.
Team National is not a pyramid company. Pyramids are illegal in the U.S. Do you really believe that Wells Fargo, Chrysler Corp, Home Depot, or any other of the Fortune 500 companies we have contracts with would do business with a company involved in illegal activities?
As a small business owner, I saved over $1900 on purchases from May 05-Dec 05. I will not disclose my income during that period but it was substancially more than I saved. A membership is a necessity for small business owners because of all of the avenues which you can save, the benefits can be used by your employees, you can advertise your business on their website which has over 15 million hit per month for free with a premium package!
Final thought..."It is one thing to be perceived as ignorant and it's another to open your mouth and remove all doubt." I would think about that before I posted slanderous information about a company you know nothing about. Maybe do a little investigating and have your CPA or attorney check into for you first.
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02-02-2006, 02:16 AM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
Team National is not a pyramid company. Pyramids are illegal in the U.S. Do you really believe that Wells Fargo, Chrysler Corp, Home Depot, or any other of the Fortune 500 companies we have contracts with would do business with a company involved in illegal activities?
How do you know TN has contracts with these companies? Do they not do the same thing that Linkshare or any other affiliated marketing program does? It looks to me like the BIGN marketplaces uses these same services that you or I could use for free.
Walmart has more purchasing ***** then any retailer in the country, how can the TN benefit package have lower purchase prices?
I would like to try and call Dick....do you have his home number? I can't reach him in the office.
Actually "Pyramids" are legal in most states. Only non-product pyramids are illegal.
I would like to know who has actually made money from TN....by selling products to non distributors. I don't mean saving money, or getting a kick because you sign up more people
DSA....is just direct sellers supporting direct sellers...big deal. BBB and Chamber mean nothing....they don't endorse....they are just associations....i could join if i sent them a check every year. Give me a break
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03-17-2006, 05:15 AM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
It was not mentioned one the largest overall companies in the world that is involved with Team national , Wal Mart! Before anyone state items that they precieve that they know or understand they should do some investigating. Walmart came to TN and said that they wanted to be apart of the business. Not TN going to them. And I know not only from being a member of TN but also from being walmart oreinted most of my Family works at the WM Corporate office in bentonville. When I was introduced to this company I was onverwhealmed with all of the companies that were members. But walmart took the cake. I guess I should really say that my sister was the one that finaly sold. She is B/A @ WM home office and I called her before I joined and before i even told her the name she popped up "is it Team National" i said yes she said join and that was it. DSA has very few companies that is members you have to earn your way in as we have. And as far as the BigN marketplace if a person is not a member with TN then they cannot picture the whole meaning of it. It is a great company that has helped me grow in everyway possible and it has truely been a blessing and a gift from God to be a part of it. anyone who wants to share in a truely life changing company should join or at least investigate and when i say life changing i mean it not just making money but truely your whole world. I got in for the savings before I ever found out about making some residual income. I truely believe that God doesnt shut a door that he doesnt open and well it is opened and I didnt even have to knock :) if anyone would like to know more about the company please lookinto it @ Bign.com or you can e-mail me direct @ Bigguy9347@yahoo.com one more thing before i go i have heard no problem out of the insurance side of the company and I know some people that has it and they saved a bundle TN does not offer insurance they have companies that offer insurance. Insurance has certain state and federal guidlines that have to be followed all that TN does is offer you different plans and you choose what best suits you needs. and to Lumpy12 I am very sorry that whoever introduced you was like that. And I have never heard of that opening line before they made it up. and the one thing that they say is you NEVER PREQUALIFY ANYONE if you have anything that I could possibly help you with about TN please shoot me an e-mail
May Your Good Be Better and Your Better Be Blest
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This Account Has Been Suspended Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.
Good work, James! Guess you were running a scam and your ISP found out!
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03-18-2006, 12:37 AM
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This Account Has Been Suspended Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.
Good work, James! Guess you were running a scam and your ISP found out!
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LOL. Yes or it is simply a matter of a "billing" issue. Wow, do we all assume that everything in this world is a "scam". :D
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04-28-2006, 10:36 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
An auto dealership has many expenses, advertising, radio, the LOUD TV commercials, and the full color full page adds in the newspaper, they also have a building and land, IF they don’t own it all outright, they have either rent or a mortgage payment, they have utilities, mainly electricity, ever see a dark dealership, of course not, the insurance, which they must have on each and every car on their lot, specifically states “all vehicles must be parked in well lit areas” if not inside. The cars are not all paid for, they are financed, WITH interest. They must pay their employees, either hourly, salary or, in your case commissions, all the “expenses” must be paid before the “owners” ever see 1 cent profit, and if their NOT making a profit, their’s NO SENSE in being in business.
All Team Nation does, (for this ONE benefit alone, out of many) is take the dealership out of the equation, by going directly to the auto manufacturer.
As far as the BIGN Marketplace, well, IT IS NOT A benefit, it is an additional way of earning money, you can purchase a BIGN Marketplace WITHOUT buying a benefits package. Now “linkshare” well, yes, some of the stores actually use linkshare for our commission checks, and SOME ARE NOT affiliated with anyone other than TN. Now you can go to linkshare and sign up FREE, now how much do you have to pay for someone to set up and host your sit, probably a lot more than $7 a month.
If you have looked at Team National, with an open mind, and can’t see how you can save money on your everyday purchases, then please DO NOT BUY a benefits package, cause you will NEVER get your monies worth, and you can’t share/sell whatever you want to call it, if you don’t use it and save money yourself.
Personally, we have saved many times our cost of the package, saved on insurance, gas for our cars, lenscrafters eyeware, long distance phone service, cell phones – actually made money on them, instead of getting 2 free phones, we got back $200 in Team National customer loyalty rebates and didn’t pay a cent for the phones to begin with, Alltel, Cingular, Verizon, and a bunch more have partnered with us.
This may seem like a sales pitch for TN, but I have nothing to gain, you don’t know who I am, so I can NEVER “profit” off of you, I just don’t like people “bashing” something when they don’t know anything about it. If you have ever been approached by someone, and want to take a “second” look, please go back to the 1st person who asked you, and NOT anyone on this wesite.
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05-16-2006, 07:13 AM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
I joined around Christmas of this past year after being introduced to Team National by my CPA. We joined mainly for the savings. I didn't have two nickles to rub together at the time but got my Father in law to buy a premium package which covers all his children and grandchildren for life. Bottom line: TN uses the large group to gain group buying ***** with many large companies. We immediately realized savings of $2400 per year on our health insurance premium, cut our long distance bill in half, priced the exact same memory foam matress that we bough last year for $2000 at a local furniture store and through TN it is only $895. My brother in law, who is also covered under the premium benefits package my father in law bought used his Eye Med card last week at Lens Crafters and they took $75 off his glasses purchase at the register. I've priced a couple of vehichles and the best local price I can find at a dealer is $2000-$3000 more than what I can get through TN. The added benefit of being able to shop at the 80 online stores is totally separate from the "benefits package" and is great for those that shop online alot. Walmart offers TN members a larger % discount back on purchases than any other group . . . as do many other companies. I buy my ink cartridges through my TN website marketplace and spend $2 less per cartridge than at my local office supply chain store and also get 35% commission back on top of that! Only a really ignorant person would make the bashing comments I've read on this string of posts. Team National will become a household name in the next few years. Make sure to go to the news stand this August/Sept and pick up a copy of Success From Home magazine. We will be featured cover to cover (I wonder if they researched the company before they did that photo shoot last week?). Oh yeah, I also should mention that my wife and I joined at NO cost. We are covered under my Father-in-laws premium package and we have simply shared these savings with some friends and associates over the last 5 months and have already made several times more than what a premium package would have cost us if we'd had to buy one. We love Team National!
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Why would companies like Wal-Mart, Office Depot, Wells Fargo, LensCrafters, Best Buy, - just to name a few, partner with a company if said company was in any way a scam, don't you think their attorneys would check them out before signing a partnership aggreement? Please do your research folks.....
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Okay I have read these posts and this is what upsets me. These companies above have NOT PARTNERED with Team National. This is one their ways to suck you in to this crap. These companies are just listed on the BIGN market place. They are setup through an affiliate company which just gives you a percentage back when you click on that link to buy. DO NOT get sucked into this.
Why is my name "BIGN FOR STUPID" well that is what it is. The people who think they can only save tons of money through BIGN only are stupid. The smart people have figured this out and prey on these individuals. I'm a member (because of my wife) and I have been able to find everything cheaper or same price if I was not a member. They use a jewlery site that you can go to directly and the furniture site is the same. And get this you can even sign up to be an affilaite youself on many of these sites. Their webhosting is a joke, they use a service that thousands of people resell. I will be honest and say I have not really searched for a car yet, but I was not able to save on my insurance, I use a better IP phone service and the one they use is a just a reseller account and anyone can sign up for and it sucks ( http://ldbsinc.com/). I will not go on about the STUPID savings. Can you save yes! Do you need to spend $2000 for a premium package to save - NO!! I think I should just setup my own site (cost maybe $100 - Im not stupid) and give everyone the links to go to save. Please dont ask me I dont have the time. But if you want to challenge me on something please feel free and i will post and show you where to buy without spending all the money.
Now if you want to make money you can do that. i know several people who have made $100,000 in one year preying on the stupid. I just realized I called my wife stupid. SORRY!! Momentary lost of mind for her. Go for it! You can make the money and it is legit, but are you going to be able to sleep at night knowing you just told them can only save money this way!! Also look at where this program is taking off - Mostly poor states where they prey on the less educated and elderly.
Enough for now. Hope this helps some of you.
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Reason: add link to VOIP reseller
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I buy my ink cartridges through my TN website marketplace and spend $2 less per cartridge than at my local office supply chain store and also get 35% commission back on top of that! Only a really ignorant person would make the bashing comments I've read on this string of posts.
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Okay tell me what brand of machine you bought it for and the price was it a remanufactured ink or was it the brand of the printer. Model # on the ink would be great. I will show you where to get it cheaper with the 35% commission that takes months to get back. By the way if you do not have the website (which costs you money) you did not get the money back the person who owns the website does. And I can tell you that commission you just gave them does not pay for the site. Let me know and I will start showing people where to save money and if I can't - you win!
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If you have looked at Team National, with an open mind, and can’t see how you can save money on your everyday purchases, then please DO NOT BUY a benefits package, cause you will NEVER get your monies worth, and you can’t share/sell whatever you want to call it, if you don’t use it and save money yourself.
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I agree the only problem is Team National will not allow anyone to see if they can actually save money before they use the benefit. When I would go to support my wife and show these videos they would ask okay I spend this much on Insurance - how much can I save? Well you are not allowed to start shopping for them. It takes along time. Its a way to suck you in.
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Insurance Savings - Bull Crap
One last thing for the night to just prove my point and I have more to make. I think I may setup a website to show everyone thinking about joining team national where they can save money without spending thousands.
Several people have mentioned INSURANCE and how they saved thousands THROUGH team national. BULL.
FIRST - Where they direct you to view pricing is an affilaite site where they make $4.00 to $15.00 for EVERY person that just looks to get pricing. WOW! So all new members are told how they can save thousands so they pretty much ALL try to see what they save. Now Team National makes more GREEN STUFF!! Here are the links to view where to sign up as an affiliate for the same site they send their members.
Auto Term and Homeowner Insurance :D
http://www.insweb.com/about/associates/default.htm
Home Owners Insurance :D
http://www.electricinsurance.com/abo...tes.asp?VCF=WX
TWO: They save money THROUGH TEAM NATIONAL. Read below from members site. :eek:
*The National Companies / Team National is not acting as an insurance company or agent. We are providing our benefit package owners with access to the Insurance For Us website and other insurance and non-insurance websites chosen by Insurance For Us, a service provider to the National Companies. The National Companies / Team National is not responsible for the information on the Insurance For Us site or the links from that site.
Please note: Insurance For Us does not discount medical insurance. They give you access to a wide range of companies so that you can search for the lowest prices and options without having to shop around with numerous agents.
ANY ONE WANT TO COMMENT NOW!!! LETS PLAY BALL!!! :)
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
BigNforStupid - I am very interested in what you have to say. My wife has been approached to join and she is very "sold" on the idea. How can I convince her it's just a way for them to make money? I don't see any real savings - since we aren't buying furniture every week - or jewelry - or whatever. But she's convinced it's a way to make big money. Can you post the furniture site - or the jewelry site? I tried to suggest she just sign up for free if her whole interest was in selling it to others - they gave some excuse that how can you sell something you don't have? Geesh - I don't know - how does a Ferrari salesman sell them when he drives some cheap car? To me, it seems like they have an answer for everything - and bottom line is they want your MONEY. Why not show the savings you can get BEFORE you pay? Seems like a reputable business would do this. It also seems like they offer the personal package but really PUSH the more expensive package.
Anyway- any help you can give is appreciated - I'm trying to keep my family from wasting $800 - $2100!!!
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06-09-2006, 07:38 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
The best way to get them not to waste money is to buy a benefits package, use it for the savings only, and when someone asks where you bought that (whatever it was) try real hard not to tell them about Team National, just tell them their going to have to buy it on their own and pay more cause you don't want to tell them how you saved money, and see what their reaction is then.
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07-15-2006, 11:29 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
A deeper dive on the individuals behind National Companies would suggest there might be more to worry about. For instance take a look at the following link:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-ed...ion=getcompany
Does anyone have any idea why the company filed a "Securities registration termination [Section 12(g)]" on 12-29-2003? In addition they filed late on almost all their preceeding filings and presented less than stellar financials. In the era of Enron/Worldcom, I would be concerned with working for a company that does not follow SEC regulations.
Any thoughts?
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08-30-2007, 11:21 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
check out the company background!! they have an awesome track record that speaks for itself. i have been with them for 2 years and use the benefits of buying online and receiving cash back as well as the member only discounts on jewelry and cars. i control the money i make for selling memberships into the group by how hard i work but when folks see the stubs of my checks and see how much i have gotten for just doing my everyday shopping from my website and from the sales of memberships---they are impressed and encouraged. i love it!!! the company has great people who are easy to work with too. this says a lot in todays world!!!!God bless you!!
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10-19-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: TEAM NATIONAL or SIMPLE AS ABC yes or no?
Fortunately for me I did not read all this negativity before joining Team National. I probably would have never joined. All I can say is that I am glad that I did. Not because I think I am in the greatest Direct Sales company there ever was, but because of all the things that I have learned. 20 years ago when I first looked at MLM, the resources were not there. The only thing we had were the guys and gals in their fancy wears strutting there stuff on stage and getting everyone hyped up. That works for about two days, then reality hits and you have to come off the mountain. You get all worked up into a frenzy but there is no meat, just allot of hollering. I mentioned earlier that there are more resources out there now to help you become a success at whatever MLM company you choose, yes even Team National.
Sincerely yours,
The Answerman
Last edited by katiescorner : 10-19-2007 at 06:50 PM.
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