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Old 10-21-2010, 05:33 AM
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I guess you are saying they as well are branded by you as unethical...
I believe Donald Trump is the epitome of an unethical person. This isn't something I've ever hidden.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:35 AM
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As I have said on countless occasions, I do not think all MLMs are scams. I think enough MLMs are scams to say it's a very good rule of thumb.

As for ethics (which is different than it being a scam), while MLM is not, by definition, unethical, I have yet to see an MLM with ethics. I have yet to see an MLM that honestly markets their product.
Mmmm so you've ''yet to see a MLM with ethics''

I presume you are aware of two companies called Avon and Tupperware?
Please tell us what exactly they do that is ''unethical''?
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:42 AM
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Mmmm so you've ''yet to see a MLM with ethics''

I presume you are aware of two companies called Avon and Tupperware?
Please tell us what exactly they do that is ''unethical''?
screw their distributors.

sorry, the net is littered with stories from people who were inventory loaded by Avon.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:58 AM
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screw their distributors.

sorry, the net is littered with stories from people who were inventory loaded by Avon.
Why the concern for the distributors all of the sudden? I thought all MLMr's were lairs and con-men according to you!?

I wish you'd find a story and stick with it...
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:01 AM
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Why the concern for the distributors all of the sudden? I thought all MLMr's were lairs and con-men according to you!?

I wish you'd find a story and stick with it...

The hypocrisy is amazing isn't it Kerry.

I presume that in cal's world if you haven't sponsored anyone or ever sold a product, you are a victim, but if you do either of he above, you're a scammer.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:23 AM
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Mmmm so you've ''yet to see a MLM with ethics''

I presume you are aware of two companies called Avon and Tupperware?
Please tell us what exactly they do that is ''unethical''?
If he did see an MLM with ethics, how would he come to know that?

Oh wait, I forgot, Cal KNOWS everything about everything...Sorry. My bad...
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:45 AM
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Being public mean people can buy a substantial amount of shares on the open market if shareholders want to sell and get voting rights (not just anyone, you have to have enough money to buy enough shares). Guess what, someone can equally buy the company when it's private as well if they want to if private shareholders want to sell.

Hmmm, doesn't sound very different. But relax, someone like me wouldn't invest in MLM, whether it's profitable or not. I have ethics.

This is the kind of attitude you want to see in an owner:

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Old 10-21-2010, 11:11 AM
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Why the concern for the distributors all of the sudden? I thought all MLMr's were lairs and con-men according to you!?

I wish you'd find a story and stick with it...
I'd appreciate 1 single quote where I've said that.

I won't expect answer....liar.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:42 AM
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I'd appreciate 1 single quote where I've said that.

I won't expect answer....liar.
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while MLM is not, by definition, unethical, I have yet to see an MLM with ethics.
Got yourself painted into a bigots corner there Cal!

Even though you've not seen them all, plus, how would you know regardless, & yet they're all unethical, liars & cons...

Bigot.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:57 AM
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Got yourself painted into a bigots corner there Cal!

Even though you've not seen them all, plus, how would you know regardless, & yet they're all unethical, liars & cons...

Bigot.
How on earth is saying I don't believe an MLM operates with ethics means all their distributors are unethical?

That's a bigotted assumption on your part regarding my beliefs, not a reflection of my actual beliefs.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:26 AM
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How on earth is saying I don't believe an MLM operates with ethics means all their distributors are unethical?

That's a bigotted assumption on your part regarding my beliefs, not a reflection of my actual beliefs.
I repeat...

Got yourself painted into a bigots corner there Cal!

Even though you've not seen them all, plus, how would you know regardless, & yet they're all unethical, liars & cons...

Bigot.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:36 AM
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I repeat...

Got yourself painted into a bigots corner there Cal!

Even though you've not seen them all, plus, how would you know regardless, & yet they're all unethical, liars & cons...

Bigot.
When you can read simple sentences, get back to me.

I have never come across a Send Out Cards rep with ethics. Of course, I've only come across one so far. Now tell me how I just said all SOC reps are unethical, ya moron.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:51 AM
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When you can read simple sentences, get back to me.

I have never come across a Send Out Cards rep with ethics. Of course, I've only come across one so far. Now tell me how I just said all SOC reps are unethical, ya moron.
You've called SOC the company unethical, I'm unethical by default.

Bigot.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:12 AM
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You've called SOC the company unethical, I'm unethical by default.
No. You are an independent contractor for SOC. You are a different company. Your unethical status came from your own actions. Or are you guys now arguing that you are employees?
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No. You are an independent contractor for SOC. You are a different company. Your unethical status came from your own actions. Or are you guys now arguing that you are employees?
So what is it cal? Are the companies unethical, or is it the distributors (who are not employed by them) who are unethical?

You change your story so many times, its impossible to keep track.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:20 AM
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So what is it cal? Are the companies unethical, or is it the distributors (who are not employed by them) who are unethical?
some distributors are unethical, some are honest. I would hope there are some ethical MLM companies are out there, I just haven't come across any.
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You change your story so many times, its impossible to keep track.
If you could post a couple of things that show my story changing, you know, back up what you say, that would be great. It would also be a first. I won't hold my breath.
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No. You are an independent contractor for SOC. You are a different company. Your unethical status came from your own actions. Or are you guys now arguing that you are employees?
Quit squirming for a position, it's embarrassing...

you're an Anti-MLM bigot, & everyone but you knows it. Quit deluding yourself...
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