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Old 05-03-2010, 01:51 PM
pato911 pato911 is offline
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I ordered gold package about 2 years ago, paid $1000! received about 50 links from unrelated forums and never received my money back!
Please see more details:
Please check even more details
Another customer review:
Here is how this "business" is organised
They also managed to scam many namepros members back in 2007
namepros thread closed:
And guess what? Now they have bought huge banner on the top of (can afford paying $4K a months after scamming hundreds people)
and have started again with exactly the same service...(+ added paypal masspay option :) BEWARE! if you pay masspay you can never
ask paypal for any refund !
Always be smart and don't repeat other's mistakes.
Always check who you are going to deal with
For example how possibly can help you to increase your pagerank and to improve backlinks structure(they promise 1000's backlinks!) if
Forumlinkbuilder itself has pagerank 0! (zero) and about 500 backlinks for 3 years of hard work :)According to the whois was created in 2007.

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Old 05-03-2010, 04:21 PM
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Re: artists

Thanks for the tip my friend. I must say, I usually do not use link building services unless it is something like Directory Maximizer and other recognized companies that give you detailed reports that you can verify.

The reason is that unless they guarantee a detailed report and some sort of verification (like for example, when your site is submitted to a directory you usually get an email from the directory itself) you can never know for sure what they have really done and if they have given you your money's worth.

I think it is sometimes better to work yourself on it with the aid of software, and only use these services when you can be certain they are reliable.

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Old 06-07-2010, 08:50 PM
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Re: artists

Everything in the above post is a manufactured LIE. Here is my story: SCAM
Their Report Cannot Show Any Listings for in 400 Directories
"Subject: 3rd Directory Submission Report to 400 More Directories\

Hello Jane,

I KNOW this report is a fraud. In other words, you are
STEALING FROM ME. When I used Directory Maximizer, they
could show me exactly where my website links were.
HAVE GIVEN ME. I will be publishing these results on my
blog, contacting the Federal Trade Commission,,, my bank , your webhosting facility.
What do you intend to do to REMEDY THIS SITUATION ?

This is only the 2nd Directory Submission Report.
I searched a few of these directories and never found my
website after looking in the Business section and using
the website's search facility: For instance = No valid search parameters


In this directory
these are the results in the category I should be in:
India Business Directory » Business & Economy » Work At Home
Surveys (0)
Links Sort by: PageRank | Hits | Alphabetical
PR: 5
Worldwide Work At Home -

Offers many resources for anyone seeking work at home employment. Find the companies that often hire home workers as well as current telecommuting job listings, freelance projects, home business ideas, and more.
PR: 4
Part Time Online Jobs -

Genuine work at home opportunities for teens, students, housewives and retired persons. Part-time jobs for people especially from India.
PR: 4
Work At Home -

Free tools, tips and articles to get started with your work at home career. Online home business ideas, free list of paid surveys, online jobs, work at home jobs and more.
PR: 4
Make Money Online Reviews -

Home Based Businesses Revealed. TheWebReviewer brings you in-depth information on today's hottest online money making programs.
PR: 3
Home Business Opportunity directory -

Home Business Opportunity directory-work at home make money ideas. Here you will find all for the home of the based business or work from home. The reselling e-books, resources making money online, free affiliate program and profitable marketing...
PR: 1
Useful work at home jobs information -

Help you get freelance online telecommuting jobs and work at homes opportunities worldwide via Internet. You can free post job opportunities and resumes here.
PR: 0
New! Automated, Turn Key, Home Income System -

Home Based Business launches EASIEST work from home system EVER!Create wealth, Earning THOUSANDS weekly with no skill needed! MUST SEE Automated system does 99%
PR: 0
Internet Business Opportunity -

FREE Internet Business Opportunity involves working at home on the Internet. Free quick courses show you how. We supply free training to start your business. There is no cost to you. Start part time and make money in your spare time.
PR: 0
Legitimate and ethical home based business -

Great for stay-home Moms / Dads or anyone who wants work at home and still make a full-time income. Directors make $100,000+ /year, many earned $1000s during first few weeks. Have confidence, we are a BBB online reliability member, a legitimate home business that will help change your life forever
PR: 0
Proven Home Business! -

Make Money At Home. Simply Follow 3 Easy Steps To Earn Massive Residual Profits From Home!Your Fast Home Business Success!
Working From Home Strategy,Work At Home Moms -

Working from home strategy site for work at home, work at home moms, work at home careers, part time work at home, work at home opportunities and computer work at home
Perfect Wealth Formula -

Make a realistic $400-$1600 per day online with the Perfect Wealth Formula. Copy my exact methods. Please click Display Images button to view this image

Hello Will,

Some time ago you placed an order for our Gold Package. As was scheduled in Your SEO Friendly Link Building Plan, by today we have submitted your website to 400 more directories.

Click here to download the report.

Note: it's not your final report, the aim of this report is just to show you the progress.

Note: in our Forum Link Building Reports we provide URLs to exact pages where your link is placed. However, we cannot provide a similar report for Directory Submission Service because of multiple reasons:

1. After the submission is done, it takes some time before directories accept or decline your site URL. Some directories like DMOZ need up to 1 year to review submitted sites.
2. Directories' owners may decide to place your site URL in different categories.
3. Most directories don't provide URL search navigation bar. So this makes the process of your URL finding even more difficult and time consuming.
4. Even if we check out each category where your site URL may be placed, many of the categories have subcategories and some subcategories have more than 1 page. So, in order to find your site URL, we would have to spend too much time, and this would make our service much more expensive. This wouldn't be profitable for you to pay for this additional service, so that's why we simply don't check whether or not each directory has accepted your site, and where your site URL is listed in it.

Am I sending too many emails to you?

Yes, you're sending me too many emails. Please send less.
No, it's fine.

Jane Sezer
Your Project Manager
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:02 PM
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Re: artists

On Saturday June 12,2010, I emailed both my bank and Jane Sezer concerning the above evidence of no links since I had not received a response from the first email. I spoke to a representative at my bank and he said that I had to file a police report and insisted that I activate the new credit card that was sent me. I did do that but I felt I must wait to find out if there would be a response from ForumLinkBuilding, but there was no response to either email I sent.
I have contacted the Legal Department at
where there servers are located and wil be sending them any subsequent police reports. I have filed a Ferderal Trade Commission complaint and made many posts on may forums and a large post
similar to the one above on my blog. I did receive a response from them on Monday and that was a form html email with the fourth report of 500 supposed directories that my website has been listed in. I will do a thorough search of it tonight. Their strategy seems to be if they ignore it, it will go away as if what they are doing is legitimate. It is not .It is CRIMINAL. I will be contacting the Indianapolis Police Dept. eventually because they are registering as ownoing both Qeco INc. and Neenco Inc. on a small street in a private dwelling at
No one returns alls from their U.S. phone number and it is answered in Russian and then briefly in English.

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We work from Monday to Friday. Business hours:
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:23 AM
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Re: artists

Even i had some money stucked over their services. I choose the link building via forums and after weeks they didn't replied me back...Is there anything we all can do to get this ruthless company out ?

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Old 07-14-2010, 04:14 AM
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Re: artists

Some more news:

I think that most or possibly all testimonials have been fabricated.
Please check 43c video on front page of forumlinkbuilding,com with a guy Jim Spasey, Small business owner :)
and his website:
According to the whois the domain name ( belongs to ---Mr. Konstantin Shevchenko (the owner of forumlinkbuilding,com) !!!! :)
Konstantin Shevchenko +3.80679032999
Konstantin Shevchenko
Vishgorodskaya str., 38, 96

Seems that Konstantin Shevchenko and Yaroslav Korchagin are regularly checking this thread as The video was immidiately removed from forumlinkbuilding front page! :)

Based on this example I am sure that ALL TESTIMONIALS VIDEOS WERE FABRICATED!
And here is a real testimonial:
Hi my name is Robert Barclay I am from the UK and on the 20th of August 2008 I spent $1,000 with Neenco on a link capaign which promised me 750 forum posts in 250 different forums.
Upon looking on and reading all the information on there I was very confident I had found a site I could work with and benefit from for many years and also save me lots of time in my link building campaigns.
How wrong could i be…
I sent an email to the company asking if i could speak to someone in regards to a link building programme via msn, within a couple of hours a very friendly Youssef who went through the packages in great detail. I informed Youssef that I had a fair amount of SEO experience and that the importance of relevant links was important to me and that the site I was wanting to promote was a “Weight Loss” site. Youssef fully understood the importance of relevant inbound links and assured me that the link builders will only be posting links from sites that share the same category.
I took the bait and paid my $998 for the agreed package, I filled in an excell spreadsheet of the keywords, links and anchor text to be used on the links and emailed it accross to Julia my “Dedicated Project Manager” I was then told my campaign had been parked and would be put live within a couple of weeks, I was thrown back as they told me they would be able to complete the campaign in 45 Days, I said i wanted my campaign starting as soon as possible so they sent me a link to another page were i could pay an additional fee of $100 to get my project started quicker! I informed Youssef i was not happy about this and he said not to worry about payment he will schedule my project to start straight away.
* Neenco did not deliver on their linking service and were hard to contact most times.
So the promise was:
750 Links from 250 Forums
All relevant to my Weight Loss Category
All posts will be useful posts no spam at all
All posts will come from google indexed thread
Weekly update reports
2000 to Directories which have high PR up to PR9
50 Deep Link submissions to High PR directories
50 Social Bookmarking Submissions
13 SEO Services such as:
Site History Valuation
Link Building Reports
Link Replacement
SERP Ranking and Analysis
Keyword Tracking and Reporting
SEO Knowledge Sharing
Plus so much more the list is endless.
What did i get?
16th September 2008
I contacted Neenco/Youssef as i had not heard anything at all back from them and wanted to know how they were getting on, they replied on the 19th September to tell me my “Project Manager”Julia would send me the report very soon..
23rd of September 2008
Receive an excell spreadsheet report which shows 99 Links achieved, i checked these links and I was appauled and fuming!
1. All posts came from Tech Support Forums
2. All posts were one of few identical posts which were:
a “Hi im new here”
b “my computer makes a funny beeping noise”
c “5 great SEO Tips”
d “i am after a new PC needs to be this low spec and i have a budget of $2k” (why would you want to pay $2k for a low spec computer?)
Also some posts were done on the same page that others were spamming Gambling and Pornography links.
I approached Neenco and explained that these posts were a disgrace and they told me that it doesnt matter that they are in non relevant forum it still an inbound link, I did not agree and emphasised that Quality is better than Quantity when it comes to links they tried to cover up saying it wasnt an issue, and that there are no forums on the internet that are in the health/diet/fitness sectors which are not using the no follow attribute which i found very hard to believe.
Out of the 99 Links 25 of them had already been deleted, and not one of them had been indexed by google, a couple of the complete forums had not been indexed!
I then continued to ask for updates over the coming months and each time i would get told the report was on its way, it never was.
Neenco/Youssef/Julia used many excuses for my campaign not being finished from
“Severe Storms in the Ukraine have severed our internet connection” to
“our Checking tool was broken”
“Julia has the report for you but she is off as she is really ill”
I pushed Neenco constantly through November and December and then on the 22nd of December I received another excell Spreadsheet and it had 378 Links achieved, I checked the first 99 and they had not updated the spreadsheet, all of the links which had already been deleted were still listed even though i informed Neenco that most of the links had already marked as spam and removed, the rest of the spreadsheet was pretty much identical to the first report.
Same poor quality non related links using poor quality posts of “Hi im new here”
To date it is the 19th of January 2009, 5 months since I gave Neenco $1000 and in return i have less than 100 active links due to the other rubish ones being deleted by the forums, I look forward to the day that these 100 are also deleted because I am embarrased for anyone to see them and think that the poster has any connection to my clients website.
Never received any of the directory submissions or the SEO Tools, Keyword Analysis, “SEO Knowledge Sharing” (well actually they certainly shared that, because they no nothing)
Please read this and take note of the total mess and damage Neenco can do not just to your bank balance but to your companies website reputation do not waste your money with Neenco.
If you want quality posts I would recommend that you do them yourself to be on the safe side!
Also Neenco contacted me within one week of me paying and asked me to write a testimonial for them and i would get 15 more links built! I told them when you have done your work you will get my Testimony for FREE and here it is.
Also the technique of keeping your money is they string out the first report beyond the time you can get a refund via paypal, so once you realise they are making a hash of your project its too late to get your money back via paypal protection.
If Neenco have a problem with this post that is fine, I hope they do, because it will be getting posted everywere that neenco promote there services for the rest of this year.
This is a completely Genuine post which I am prepared to backup legally if so required my office number is UK +44 800 635878
Kind Regards
Rob Barclay

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Old 07-18-2010, 05:35 AM
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Re: artists

More forumlinkbuilding,com victims:

More info:

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Old 07-19-2010, 05:53 PM
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Re: artists

REALLY people? What did you expect? Well I know what you expected but did you REALLY believe they could make it happen?

Link building takes TIME and EFFORT. You can't pay someone to get your links out there. IF you do, you are most likely going to end up with your link on a bunch of link farms.. which the search engines will ding you for and will also possibly ban you.

So they are supposed to get your link out on thousands of forums? MOST forums don't allow links.. so how do you expect them to do that? It's always very obvious to website owners and forums when someone shows up and posts a "great site they just found" or some other bull.. How? That person never posts again or after a month only has a few posts.. Guess what happens to those posts? They get deleted.

If you want to get your backlinks.. you MUST earn them.. you can't buy them.

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Old 07-19-2010, 05:56 PM
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For the record.. forumlinkbuildings post was deleted simply because it had SOOO many of it's own links in the body of the post that it couldn't be cleaned up..

One of Wills posts was also deleted because he quoted that post and again.. it would have taken hours to clean it up and make it still readable.

If forumlinking wants to respond PLEASE do so.. but leave your links out of it.

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Old 08-16-2010, 12:39 PM
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Re: artists

Hey All,

I just bought the silver package and when I didn't get any kind of conformation email after I signed up I wrote in asking a few questions and no response. Then I called and no response. Then I got an email from my "dedicated project manager" Jane Sezer I began to get a little suspicious and came here to see if there is any info on this company. I got a sinking feeling in the bottom of my stomach when I saw this thread.

I wrote to the CEO but no response as of yet. I'll keep you all updated.


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Old 08-24-2010, 12:02 PM
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I am glad that i came upon this thread. Just checked through the DP thread review on these guys. I was really attracted by their offerings and wanted to give a shot. Thanks OP.

BTW did you guys note on the DP thread, the scammer refers to him as
"CEO, Project Manager, SEO Consultant & Internet Marketing Specialist".

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Old 08-31-2010, 11:58 AM
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Re: artists

Please let us know about the progress.
BTW forumlinkbuilding has started a new project:
The project is 3 months old but already has 3 years+ old loyal customers :))) with lots of positive testimonials :)
Same business approach, same fabricated testimonials.
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Hey All,

I just bought the silver package and when I didn't get any kind of conformation email after I signed up I wrote in asking a few questions and no response. Then I called and no response. Then I got an email from my "dedicated project manager" Jane Sezer I began to get a little suspicious and came here to see if there is any info on this company. I got a sinking feeling in the bottom of my stomach when I saw this thread.

I wrote to the CEO but no response as of yet. I'll keep you all updated.


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Old 09-22-2010, 03:45 AM
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Well, I saved just a few bucks when I come across this forum. I was looking for information, when I need links.

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Old 10-02-2010, 01:32 PM
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Re: artists is an actual scam. I paid $998 for their Gold Package plus 50% more liks which should have been close to 5,600 linkd from forums,directories and all
I received was 118 links that I could actually find from all the lists they sent me. Many of the websites thry listed do not even exist.

Everything looks very good,except there is nothing behind it and they never answer any of your questio ns. They just send you pre-written answers to everything.

Do Not Use them unless you want to lose your money. I filed a police report and filed that with my bank and now my bank won't reimburse me. They have decided to rip me off,too.
They just keep telling me it is under investigation that should have been finished according to them on Sept.29,2010. They are just stonewalling me.BTW,it is Sovereign Bank.

Their webhosting facility is and I contacted GoDaddy ,but nothing has been done. I contected StatCounter where I have an account and where they advertise and StatCounter are such pigs that they just take knowing that their own customers will get ripped off.
The best thing to do would be to file multiple complaints with the FBI Fraud Center Center and multiple complaints with the Attorney General's office of Arizona where GoDaddy is located.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:35 AM
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Total SCAM!!!!!!!!!!! They do this because they know paypal wont refund quality and for now they can get away with it. Unfortunately, they scammed the wrong guy because I have a team of seo people who will be dedicated to spreading the word of their scam!

Forum link is a complete ripoff! They don't offer quality links like they say. If you do get links your links will be from low quality posts. Pr 1 to 3. You can get this service for less than

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Old 11-13-2010, 09:30 AM
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Wow, this is some scary stuff. Good thing I did a search and found this thread. Really looks too good to be true, and saved me the money. I have just seen they advertising on so many sites, I thought they were legit.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:46 AM
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Do NOT send these scam artists any money, you might as well flush it down the toilet.

First off... they don't follow through with ANY of the "Included SEO Services" in your package.

The main MISSING features from my SEO Link Building Campaign:

#1) Monthly Keyword Tracking & Reporting
Regular Reports containing your website SERP Rankings Changes will allow you to always track the progress of your Link Popularity Campaign performance.

Never got a single one. When asked about it - no response.

#2) Site History Evaluation
To make your link building campaign more effective & safe, we will analyze 14 SEO factors of your website and consider them before your project initiation.

I asked about my "Site History Evaluation" and they just responded;

"we can't do this our tool doesn't work."


#3) Links from sites like PR9
Links from .EDU & .GOV sites.

^---- I haven't received ANY of these yet, the highest links they've built for me was like four from PR5's.

Now let's talk about the actual link building.

First off, they are from SPAMMY sites and I believe they use some sort of cheap custom programmed spam bot. If I wanted to go that route, I could of purchased a copy of SENUKE and duplicated their "services" almost exactly.

The "quality" links they claim to provide is utter garbage. Half the sites had over 300 outbound spammy links on them and were extremely irrelevant and highly spammy (calling for an instant deletion... half the links in the reports they were sending were broken or missing.)

They also promised me;

2. Manual Theme Specified (Niche) Directory Submission - 50

3. Manual Deep Link Directory Submission (no. of submissions) - 50

5. Manual Social Bookmarking Submission (no. of submissions) - 50

I haven't received ANY of these.

Not only that, the initial report they sent me for links was erroneous - containing incorrect backlinks and incorrect URLs. It took 2 weeks to get a vague crappy copy & pasted response uttering some B.S. about how "Google's ranking changes" and it had NOTHING to do with my problem.

I'm going to contact the BBB, file a police report, and contact PayPal and GoDaddy about these awful scammers.

Oh, and half those "testimonials" you see from forums are from THEIR OWN TEAM. It's clear, on the digitalpoint forums ALL of the posts that say "I'm on my 3rd order with these guys! highly recommended" all have spammy SEO links in their signature... doesn't that tell you something? THEY OWN THE ACCOUNTS.

It's all smoke & mirrors, and I fell for it.

They promised me around 3000 links total, and I have only so far (given them ample time to provide... 2 months...) built me around 112 crappy low-quality spammy links, with ZERO directory submissions even though they claimed to submit 800 for me so far (I also purchased an additional article submissions from them for my other sites, NEVER received the "SEO-Optimized" articles I was promised).

Also, my link analyzing tools don't show a single directory link that was even built for me.

And ~800 are supposed to be floating out around there?

*Cough Scam Cough*

The next problem was half of the links they *did* build for me were for the WRONG ANCHOR TEXT. Which goes to show clearly a bot was doing the link building, NOT a human. One of my sites is for a business niche, and the other is for some totally unrelated subject matter... and they STILL built the wrong links linking these two totally unrelated website together.

How do you screw that up?

Example, "Cheap Daisy Flowers" would be built for a website such as, "" ... any human with a half a brain would clearly realize that is the wrong backlink, yet they still built over 220 of them incorrectly?

(Or so the report claimed...)

Clearly they use bots, which they claim in their sales material that they don't.

When contacting "Jane" my handy project manager, 2 weeks later I receive a response from this person who probably isn't even real saying "Sorry for the delay of our response. We have deleted all the broken links. Contact me with any further questions."

Okay great, so now my sites only have around 60 shitty links built for them at "Project Completion" instead of the 112 I recieved, where's the other 2960 you promised me from "PR9, PR8, PR7 SITES AND 'DEEP-LINKED' DIRECTORIES!"

.... not there. I was scammed. I can't believe I fell for this.

So they deleted all the old broken backlinks and I'm practically left with nothing... the crappy [~60] working links they did build me I could of got that service done by outsourcing it to some guy in India for $10.

Definitely NOT worth the money they charge. They don't offer any of what they promise and I fear my ranking is actually HURT from these spammy non-related sites.

Niche directories and related & relevant 'quality' high PR link building my ass.

Stay away from these scammers, and if you're a victim - help spread the word so other poor innocent business builders like me don't get ripped off of their hard earned capitol.

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Old 02-19-2011, 10:09 AM
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It seems that finally google has banned as spammers. You can not find them for any keywords or even typing forumlinkbuilding. Still they are now operating as a new company + thousands banners accross the internet

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