Jeff Long & Larry Loik w/ Instant Capture Page now

[executive33]

Jeff Long creator of instant capture page and now The Squeeze Page came up with a concept that sounded great. You could create a capture page in an easy manner and make money by getting other people to purchase The squeeze page service / ICP or Instant capture page.

I introduced people and got paid initially and continued to promote it but Jeff Long had some major issues with the system as it pertains to actually paying people. He stopped paying which was a major problem. When they transitioned The Instant capture page to The Squeeze Page, they lost all funds that were due me in that transition and in my opinion, I could not have been the only one this happened to.

When you work hard promoting something and have money due you then you expect to get paid. I received an email from Jeff Long that they had a problem with the transition but that he would pay me asap. I waited... a couple months later, I'm still waiting to get paid.

I didn't realize that asap perhaps meant NEVER

This is a warning to those who are thinking, considering and perhaps contemplating the idea of doing business with Jeff Long in any respect now or in the future. He could very well be a great guy but I had a poor exp.

Think twice as he did not pay me so what makes you think that he would pay you. If Jeff Long is not good for his word about paying asap which does not mean pay me in a year, it means pay me now. I would hate to see others fall prey to someone who offers you an opportunity / product and is not capable of paying as promised. It's very easy to pay someone as it's the right thing to do and if you don't then your name is no good. You say something and you do the opposite, what would you call such a person?

Be very careful as this is a warning that you must look carefully at Jeff Long when considering any possible business dealings in the future as my exp. was not a good one. If it happened to me then who else are they not paying?? I don't know the answer to this but something to think about.

When doing business with someone, please do your homework and learn all you can if possible about the people involved. Negative flows faster then positive so if Jeff Long thought that this was just easy money, it could turn out to cost him more then the couple hundred that he owes me from Oct and it's now Feb so I take it that I may not receive my funds anytime soon.

If I finally get paid then I will keep every one posted as the service is okay, but I just want my money.

The new owner is Larry Loik and I'm sure he will make things right and I will get paid and I will keep everyone posted on his desire to make things right. He sounds like someone who is honest and looks out for the little guy. Since he is now the new owner, I can't in good faith blame him for the mistakes of the former but I will see if things change. Per his post to this one, he does sound like a nice man :)

Doesn't he??

I understand that he could be a great change and refreshing change for the instant capture page now renamed the squeeze page and I look forward to this being resolved by him in an expedient manner. Per his good name, it sounds like he is going to make things right. Time will tell!!

[larryloik]

Dear Sir,

The business was aquired form Jeff Long who had the Instant capture Page.
I have nothing to do with what Jeff owed you from the past.
we recently acquired it only a short time ago.
If you had done your research correctly you would have found everything I said here to be true.
Have you any idea what legal problems you are in for?
You have publicly slandered my good name.
Your accusations are 100% totally false.I will be coming after you for defamation of character and slander.
You will end of up owing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I suggest you take your post down and correct who the attack is on.
Any new affiliates we have now with The Squeeze Page are paid by my company.
Any that were with Instant Capture Page were Jeff's since we we did not acquire unti very recently and had nothing to do with it.
Do you ever think of the repercussions before you post?
You did not ever try to contact me to make me aware of your situation. Had you done so, i would've contacted jeff on your behalf to make him address your situation since he is responsible not I.
You must reverse your position and withdraw my good name or you will have a large lawsuit against you.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Originally Posted by larryloik

Dear Sir,

The business was aquired form Jeff Long who had the Instant capture Page.
I have nothing to do with what Jeff owed you from the past.
we recently acquired it only a short time ago.
If you had done your research correctly you would have found everything I said here to be true.
Have you any idea what legal problems you are in for?
You have publicly slandered my good name.
Your accusations are 100% totally false.I will be coming after you for defamation of character and slander.
You will end of up owing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I suggest you take your post down and correct who the attack is on.
Any new affiliates we have now with The Squeeze Page are paid by my company.
Any that were with Instant Capture Page were Jeff's since we we did not acquire unti very recently and had nothing to do with it.
Do you ever think of the repercussions before you post?
You did not ever try to contact me to make me aware of your situation. Had you done so, i would've contacted jeff on your behalf to make him address your situation since he is responsible not I.
You must reverse your position and withdraw my good name or you will have a large lawsuit against you.

Larry... if that was the same Jeff Long I think it was, you won't have a leg to stand on in court. Or get a profit from whatever worthless "investment" business he sold this time.

The Mr. Long I usually hear of with that name was so full of B.S. that I would consider it more likely to get buttermilk by crushing stones than to get an honest deal from him.

[executive33]

Now this was the fastest response from Larry Loik since I've been sending requests for my money.

I understand Larry, that you took over ICP and that's fine but you didn't take it over yesterday but have had it for some time now. I have been sending requests for my commission since you took over. Several requests in fact!! Too many in fact!!

I don't believe that I need to send an email every day to get a response from you in order for you to do the right thing.

You may be a great guy but I still need to get paid. So, per your good and ivory clean name, start paying me and those others that may not have been paid due to the transition from Instant Capture Page to The Squeeze Page.

This is a great start as you have started to reply but sad that you only reply here when it's made public about my situation. It's only been months since I started requesting my funds so better late then never.

[executive33]

Update:

I just received an email from Larry Loik, 1st official email so lets see what he had to say and if he is going to make things right:

sir,
i suggest you read your post on scam dot com.
look at my reply.
I am contacting my attorney in the morning and will be suing you for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
i am not kidding take thisc seriously.
you have commited a crime.
the crime is called slander and defamation of character you moron.
you can reach my offcies at
818-889-6006 ext 101
larry loik




Larry Loik sounds like such a nice gentleman, doesn't he??

[stopscammers]

looks like larry has been drinking too much

[nomaxim]

Originally Posted by executive33

Update:

I just received an email from Larry Loik, 1st official email so lets see what he had to say and if he is going to make things right:

sir,
i suggest you read your post on scam dot com.
look at my reply.
I am contacting my attorney in the morning and will be suing you for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
i am not kidding take thisc seriously.
you have commited a crime.
the crime is called slander and defamation of character you moron.
you can reach my offcies at
818-889-6006 ext 101
larry loik




Larry Loik sounds like such a nice gentleman, doesn't he??

Doesn't seem to bright either. 'Slander' is the spoken word and 'libel' is the written word.

Libel//slander/defamation is not a crime, it is a civil matter. In a civil court matter such as this he is the 'plaintiff' and you are the 'defendant'. That means he has to prove his case and the burden of proof is on him (as the 'plaintiff') to show your statements are false. Also, he will have to show that your statements are not simply a 'matter of opinion'. It is not easy for a business or public entity to win such a case as they generally also have to prove 'malicious intent'.

All you (as the 'defendant') have to do is show up for court.

[larryloik]

Originally Posted by executive33

Jeff Long creator of instant capture page and now The Squeeze Page came up with a concept that sounded great. You could create a capture page in an easy manner and make money by getting other people to purchase The squeeze page service / ICP or Instant capture page.

I introduced people and got paid initially and continued to promote it but Jeff Long had some major issues with the system as it pertains to actually paying people. He stopped paying which was a major problem. When they transitioned The Instant capture page to The Squeeze Page, they lost all funds that were due me in that transition and in my opinion, I could not have been the only one this happened to.

When you work hard promoting something and have money due you then you expect to get paid. I received an email from Jeff Long that they had a problem with the transition but that he would pay me asap. I waited... a couple months later, I'm still waiting to get paid.

I didn't realize that asap perhaps meant NEVER

This is a warning to those who are thinking, considering and perhaps contemplating the idea of doing business with Jeff Long in any respect now or in the future. He could very well be a great guy but I had a poor exp.

Think twice as he did not pay me so what makes you think that he would pay you. If Jeff Long is not good for his word about paying asap which does not mean pay me in a year, it means pay me now. I would hate to see others fall prey to someone who offers you an opportunity / product and is not capable of paying as promised. It's very easy to pay someone as it's the right thing to do and if you don't then your name is no good. You say something and you do the opposite, what would you call such a person?

Be very careful as this is a warning that you must look carefully at Jeff Long when considering any possible business dealings in the future as my exp. was not a good one. If it happened to me then who else are they not paying?? I don't know the answer to this but something to think about.

When doing business with someone, please do your homework and learn all you can if possible about the people involved. Negative flows faster then positive so if Jeff Long thought that this was just easy money, it could turn out to cost him more then the couple hundred that he owes me from Oct and it's now Feb so I take it that I may not receive my funds anytime soon.

If I finally get paid then I will keep every one posted as the service is okay, but I just want my money.

The new owner is Larry Loik and I'm sure he will make things right and I will get paid and I will keep everyone posted on his desire to make things right. He sounds like someone who is honest and looks out for the little guy. Since he is now the new owner, I can't in good faith blame him for the mistakes of the former but I will see if things change. Per his post to this one, he does sound like a nice man :)

Doesn't he??

I understand that he could be a great change and refreshing change for the instant capture page now renamed the squeeze page and I look forward to this being resolved by him in an expedient manner. Per his good name, it sounds like he is going to make things right. Time will tell!!

ATTENTION EXECUTIVE33- We are coming after you legally and profusely.
learn the facts before you post or suffer the consequences.
-you made jeff money not I-jeff owes you the funds.
-your inquires go to support- that goes to jeff since the deal was when we took over he would still have a support role
therefore, if you sent emails, it went to him without my knwledge.
I HAVE NOT MADE ONE DIME FROM YOU AND DONT OWE A THING.
I am not partners with jeff and your statement accuses me of being so.
if an owner of a dry cleaner, mailstop, restaurant or any business has an issue with a client it is between the two of them. the new owner of the new buisness has no ties to the past client of the previous business.
by the way, what did jeff owe u? i'm sure it is nominal.now you will pay dearly for falsely accusing me.
I DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RETRACTION OF YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT ME.
YOU CAN REACH JEFF DIRECTLY AT
jeffalong@gmail.com to resolve your issues.

[larryloik]

Originally Posted by nomaxim

Doesn't seem to bright either. 'Slander' is the spoken word and 'libel' is the written word.

Libel//slander/defamation is not a crime, it is a civil matter. In a civil court matter such as this he is the 'plaintiff' and you are the 'defendant'. That means he has to prove his case and the burden of proof is on him (as the 'plaintiff') to show your statements are false. Also, he will have to show that your statements are not simply a 'matter of opinion'. It is not easy for a business or public entity to win such a case as they generally also have to prove 'malicious intent'.

All you (as the 'defendant') have to do is show up for court.

We took over in jan 2010 (approx a month ago)and have nothnig to do with exectuve33 claims againt jeff.

he never tried to reach our offices, because if he did, we wouldve put pressure on jeff to take care of HIS previous clients.
the accusations and statements about me are derogatory and damaging.

executive33 shouldve done his homework before posting. as a result, he will suffer the consequences and will cost him many thousands of dollars in attorney fees and paying damages.

let this be a lesson to all, get all the facts and think of the consequences to you before posting.

EXECUTIVE33 WE DEMAND A REVISION OF YOUR STATEMENT NAMING ONLY JEFF BEING AT FAULT.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Did you likewise go after this fellow, Larry?
http://southcarolina.inetgiant.com/M...-Dream/2171928

And what about that "Eruption Webinar" that was posted on Youtube, claimed to be you and Jeff working together if I'm reading it right?

[Hopeful Cynic]

Originally Posted by larryloik

ATTENTION EXECUTIVE33- We are coming after you legally and profusely.
learn the facts before you post or suffer the consequences.
-you made jeff money not I-jeff owes you the funds.
-your inquires go to support- that goes to jeff since the deal was when we took over he would still have a support role
therefore, if you sent emails, it went to him without my knwledge.
I HAVE NOT MADE ONE DIME FROM YOU AND DONT OWE A THING.
I am not partners with jeff and your statement accuses me of being so.
if an owner of a dry cleaner, mailstop, restaurant or any business has an issue with a client it is between the two of them. the new owner of the new buisness has no ties to the past client of the previous business.
by the way, what did jeff owe u? i'm sure it is nominal.now you will pay dearly for falsely accusing me.
I DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RETRACTION OF YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT ME.
YOU CAN REACH JEFF DIRECTLY AT
jeffalong@gmail.com to resolve your issues.

ATTENTION ANYONE THINKING OF BUYING ANYTHING FROM LARRY LOIK:

Consider this thread as the only warning you'll ever need about Larry's customer relations and dispute mediation skills.

So what did executive33 say about Larry (not Jeff) that earned imminent threats of legal action? Let's review:

Originally Posted by executive33

The new owner is Larry Loik and I'm sure he will make things right and I will get paid and I will keep everyone posted on his desire to make things right. He sounds like someone who is honest and looks out for the little guy. Since he is now the new owner, I can't in good faith blame him for the mistakes of the former but I will see if things change. Per his post to this one, he does sound like a nice man :)

Doesn't he??

I understand that he could be a great change and refreshing change for the instant capture page now renamed the squeeze page and I look forward to this being resolved by him in an expedient manner. Per his good name, it sounds like he is going to make things right. Time will tell!!

Originally Posted by executive33

Now this was the fastest response from Larry Loik since I've been sending requests for my money.

I understand Larry, that you took over ICP and that's fine but you didn't take it over yesterday but have had it for some time now. I have been sending requests for my commission since you took over. Several requests in fact!! Too many in fact!!

I don't believe that I need to send an email every day to get a response from you in order for you to do the right thing.

You may be a great guy but I still need to get paid. So, per your good and ivory clean name, start paying me and those others that may not have been paid due to the transition from Instant Capture Page to The Squeeze Page.

This is a great start as you have started to reply but sad that you only reply here when it's made public about my situation. It's only been months since I started requesting my funds so better late then never.

And:

Originally Posted by executive33

Update:

I just received an email from Larry Loik, 1st official email so lets see what he had to say and if he is going to make things right:

sir,
i suggest you read your post on scam dot com.
look at my reply.
I am contacting my attorney in the morning and will be suing you for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
i am not kidding take thisc seriously.
you have commited a crime.
the crime is called slander and defamation of character you moron.
you can reach my offcies at
818-889-6006 ext 101
larry loik




Larry Loik sounds like such a nice gentleman, doesn't he??

And those are his three posts to date and Larry threatens legal action over this? I can say I'd never wish to be a less than completely satisfied customer of Larry Loik. And in fairness to Larry about the only way you can be sure, I mean really really sure that this doesn't happen to you is to never buy anything from him. Your lawyer may thank you.

[executive33]

An opinion is not libel, especially an opinion based on self understood fact, and you should know this Larry. Talk with your attorney and he can educate you as I don't have time.

I never said that you were partners with Jeff, Jeff did:)

Jeff Longs message to the membership about the merger is below. My understanding and opinion as it relates to a merger is that one company joins with another to become one but one and the same.

My understanding and opinion of fact based on partnership is working hand in hand as a cooperative function which means that you and him are one and the same as it pertains to the definition of partner and merger. Still waiting for my money!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

InstantCapturePage.com Is Now TheSqueezePage.com.

Please check your email for more details about this merger.

Important Message About Changes To InstantCapturePage.com

They say all good things come to an end but that isn’t always true!

In this case the end is just the beginning.

You see I have partnered up with my good friend Lawrence Loik to bringing you more good marketing stuff.

Larry is a fellow internet marketer but with some added value.

He is part of the REAL world of internet marketing.

[jefflong]

Hey there :) So sorry this got out of hand for all parties involved...certainly wasn't the intention. Please email me directly "Executive" (not sure who you are) but I'd be happy to make things right with you! Thanks for expressing your concern and feedback but I can assure you, I'm not trying to hurt you or anyone else...sometimes things just slip through the cracks unintentionally. And Larry, you don't need to waste your time effort, money or ****** on trying to sue this gentlemen...we'll make it right...no worries guys thanks again! And just to clear the air...Larry has no part on this...he is a good honest business man. This is my mistake so let me make it right so we can all go on with our business

[executive33]

Thanks Jeff as I appreciate the response and you have always been more then pleasant in your tone.

You mention that you will make this right but you have said this for the past few months which is the main reason why it's gotten to this point.

I will take your word for it and will respond to you once again.

[larryloik]

Originally Posted by Hopeful Cynic

ATTENTION ANYONE THINKING OF BUYING ANYTHING FROM LARRY LOIK:

Consider this thread as the only warning you'll ever need about Larry's customer relations and dispute mediation skills.

So what did executive33 say about Larry (not Jeff) that earned imminent threats of legal action? Let's review:







And:



And those are his three posts to date and Larry threatens legal action over this? I can say I'd never wish to be a less than completely satisfied customer of Larry Loik. And in fairness to Larry about the only way you can be sure, I mean really really sure that this doesn't happen to you is to never buy anything from him. Your lawyer may thank you.

If you notice, I jumped on things to correct the incorrect assumptions about me and get things done to right a client of jeff's not mine.
I value service and honesty.
Your statements are invalid.
i should be given thanks for getting results for exec 33 not your negative comments.
you have no experience with our company and our service.
it is top notch.
invest your time wisely being productive & being positive.
lets post your name on this and give the same invalid comments not to do biz with u and see how you react.

[nomaxim]

Originally Posted by Hopeful Cynic

ATTENTION ANYONE THINKING OF BUYING ANYTHING FROM LARRY LOIK:

Consider this thread as the only warning you'll ever need about Larry's customer relations and dispute mediation skills.

And those are his three posts to date and Larry threatens legal action over this? I can say I'd never wish to be a less than completely satisfied customer of Larry Loik. And in fairness to Larry about the only way you can be sure, I mean really really sure that this doesn't happen to you is to never buy anything from him. Your lawyer may thank you.

Well, the BBB Report does show a C- rating and that's with no complaints on file for the last 3 years.

Company Profile
The Real Estate Investor Network
Address:
4333 Park Terrace Drive, Suite 210
Westlake Village, CA 91361
Tel: (818) 889-6006
Fax:

Web Site: http://www.reinclub.com
Contact: Larry Loik - Founder and President
Business Start Date: N/A
Company ID: 92006739
Nature of Business:
This company's business is Investment Seminars

BBB Rating
C-

Complaint Experience
We have received no complaints against this company.

Since a C- rating is a score of 70.00-73.99 and there are no complaints there isn't much for the BBB to subtract points for, at least per the BBB's rating scores except maybe 'Type of Business'. Per the WhoIs info that domain has been active for almost 5 years.

Registrant:
Real Estate Investor Network
2219 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd S 224
Thousand Oaks, California 91362
United States

Domain Name: REINCLUB.COM
Created on: 28-Apr-05
Expires on: 28-Apr-10
Last Updated on: 04-Oct-08

Administrative Contact:
Loik, Lawrence theassetpro @aol.com (edited, remove space)

Registrant Search:
"Real Estate Investor Network" owns about18 other domains
Email Search: theassetpro @aol.com is associated with about 12 domains

Oddly enough the address in the Whois does not appear to be valid any longer. Someone needs to review the GoDaddy ToS,

2. ACCURATE INFORMATION.

You agree to maintain accurate information by providing updates to Go Daddy, as needed, while You are using Go Daddy's Services. You agree You will notify Go Daddy within five (5) business days when any change of the information You provided as part of the application and/or registration process changes. Failure by You, for whatever reason, to respond within five (5) business days to any inquiries made by Go Daddy to determine the validity of information provided by You will constitute a material breach of this Agreement.

You agree that Go Daddy may use and rely on any such information provided by You for all purposes in connection with Your Services, subject to Go Daddy's Privacy Policy. If You provide any information that is inaccurate, not current, false, misleading or incomplete, or if Go Daddy has reasonable grounds to suspect that Your information is inaccurate, not current, false, misleading or incomplete, Go Daddy has the absolute right, in its sole discretion, to terminate its Services and close Your account.

Per a reverse address search with Whitepages this business is not listed at the Thousand Oaks location.

[executive33]

Very interesting!!

[executive33]

Update: I have not received any funds yet but still waiting. I have 4 or 5 support tickets open in the back office that are still open since Jan and still waiting for a reply.

Jeff Long said that he will handle this so I'm still waiting. I did receive some correspondence from Larry Loik's support and they state that they are looking into getting this handled but that was over a week ago so we shall see.

Since they state that they will handle this, my understanding and opinion as it pertains to this matter is that Larry Loik is taking on the responsibility of getting this handled as is Jeff Long.

I will continue to keep people informed of the progress, good or bad.

On a secondary note, it does not matter who takes over a company as all past and current clients must be satisfied per my understanding as it relates to business. When a new owner takes over, all debt must be satisfied.

Does not matter if it's a restaurant or a waste management company, the clients are the same and the creditors are the same. Everything remains the same except for the fact that the ownership changed which does not negate the new owner of his responsibility as it pertains to past or present debt.

This is my understanding and opinion as it relates to the majority of business these days. The new owner can not wash his hands clean since he is the new owner but will take on any and all past and present responsibilities handled or not handled by previous management.

I'm not satisfied but still hopeful.

[stopscammers]

jeff long is a sham. this guy buidls a list by promotign and promising the next great poromote, but then he spams thast list with all other programs! mr long is not trustworthi at all.

[executive33]

NO deposit yet!! Doesn't look promising and based on how long I waited for even my support ticket to be responded too and the mass confusion with just issuing a simple deposit, it's not looking good.

They basically lost the records pertaining to my commission when they transferred from instant capture page under Jeff Long to The squeeze page under Larry Loik.

I guess, it's bye, bye to my commissions and just use this as a warning to others who consider the squeeze page / ICP / instant capture page.

Outcome: Nothing

This ends my thread unless they decide to do the right thing, which I have no expectation for, per my past track record with said company.

Does anyone else have any exp. with Jeff Long or Larry Loik??

I'm curious since I can't fathom that I would be the only one who did not get paid that which was due me. Curious minds want to know.

[larryloik]

Sir,
this is your final warning.
DO NOT INVOLVE ME AGAIN. Jeff Long said he will pay you it is between you and Jeff.IF you did indeed refer people it was to him when he had ICP. You have never referre anyone to TSP sice we took over witihn the last while. Jeff openely admitted to willing to assist you.
DO NOT MENTION OUR NAME ANYMORE IN YOUR POSTS. Let us be clear on this.
In addtion, if you think you are owed funds by JEff ,why did you never discuss the amount.
again reach jeff directly at
jeffalong at gmail.

You must stop accuations that TSP OWES YOU YTIHNG.
It is JEff long and ICP that does.
You have tarnished TSP and our good reputation and you will apy for it.
In addtion you never mention the amount.
What is it?
A measly $47-$97? your attorney bill huge by comparison.
In addtion, you have never ever called my offcie to discuss where i would gladly give you rhe rest of jeff's contact info.
JEFF, YOU STATED YOU WOULD ASSIT THIS GUY, DO AS YOU SAID YOU WOULD.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Larry, which part of "Jeff is a career con artist" did you not understand?

Currently he appears to be hawking an Amber Alert fraud scheme.

[larryloik]

Originally Posted by jefflong

Jeff Long said:

Hey there :) So sorry this got out of hand for all parties involved...certainly wasn't the intention. Please email me directly "Executive" (not sure who you are) but I'd be happy to make things right with you! Thanks for expressing your concern and feedback but I can assure you, I'm not trying to hurt you or anyone else...sometimes things just slip through the cracks unintentionally. And Larry, you don't need to waste your time effort, money or ****** on trying to sue this gentlemen...we'll make it right...no worries guys thanks again! And just to clear the air...Larry has no part on this...he is a good honest business man. This is my mistake so let me make it right so we can all go on with our business

PLEASE NOTE JEFF LONG' REMARKS ABOVE.

[executive33]

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

Larry, which part of "Jeff is a career con artist" did you not understand?

Currently he appears to be hawking an Amber Alert fraud scheme.

Apparently he did not grasp it the first time as you mention. This thread has been very telling in deed. I didn't even have to say much as it was said for me.

[jefflong]

Let it stand as PUBLIC RECORD to ANYONE reading this post.

I have just sent a message to executive33 asking him/her to please contact me personally to get their payment issue resolved. Whether or not he replies is up to him but I am MORE THAN WILLING to right any wrongs anyone feels I have done to them. I am an honest person with the best of intentions.

If anyone questions my integrity, my character or my intentions let him have the COURAGE to come to me PERSONALLY and confront me with the issue... I can be reached at jeff (at) joinjefflong.com.

I will not tolerate anymore defamation of character and will join forces with Larry Loik who's business is also being damaged by this post to put an end to this nonsense.

If you have issues with me...you know where to find me.

Thank you.

Jeff Long

[jefflong]

ProfHenryHiggens...

I am just curious who you are and what I ever did to you to make you say such awful things about me?

Would you like to have a phone conversation?

I don't appreciate such slander on my name and character and am happy to clear up any issues you have with me...I have nothing to hide so feel free to contact me at my personal email address jeff (at) joinjefflong.com. Happy to clear up any issues you have with me as apparently I've really upset you?

[stopscammers]

jeff, why r u pimping a new program that is obviously run by phil picolo? maybe because he made u a deal u coulnt refuse since u get to have ur splash page thing sol,d to the database? sombodies ethics r out of whack!

[jefflong]

stopscammers,

I have absolutely no idea who phil piccolo is until I started getting hints that he might be involved in DNA. I still do not know for sure if he is or is not with DNA. All I know is that Dean Blechman is DEFINITELY the CEO of the company and time will tell if I'm right or wrong about them. If checks start flying and people start getting paid that will tell a lot don't you think? But you really need to stop assuming you know things when you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about...seriously it's going to get you into trouble when you say the wrong thing about the wrong person.

Look, I have 3 beautiful children and one on the way. You have no idea what my life has been like. I donate THOUSANDS of dollars to my church, I help out people in need, I give people's money back when they ask for it after purchasing something from me that they are unhappy with, I help people as much as I possibly can and I try to give back any time I get the chance. I work VERY HARD to be a good influence and a light in this world and I don't appreciate people like you coming along and trying to destroy everything I have worked for just because you have nothing better to do than to sit around trying to figure everyone out and call everyone and anything that is successful a SCAM or a CON ARTIST. I think it's about time you look up the definition of a CON ARTIST and then look up the definition of defamation because I've had about all I'm going to take of this.

Take me seriously.

[jefflong]

Furthermore my marketing system is a tool and service that provides VALUE TO THOSE THAT CHOSE TO USE IT. Anyone purchasing that system WANTS it and I provide extreme value for what they are paying for. You really need to stop this or at least call me/ email me directly so that I can clear up any issues ANYONE reading this post or CONTRIBUTING to this post has with me or ANY questions about my business, my character and my intentions. I am an open book as I have absolutely nothing to hide. I will wait for executive33 to email me directly to give me instructions on how to pay him/her. Other than that, I am done wasting my time on this post. You know where to find me but I promise you I have my attorneys keeping a close eye on this posting and I will take action if the defamation continues.

[stopscammers]

R U SERIOUS? u didn't know who phil picolo was. right. please give us a break here. have u been hiding under a rock for the last several years?

Originally Posted by jefflong

stopscammers,

I have absolutely no idea who phil piccolo is until I started getting hints that he might be involved in DNA. I still do not know for sure if he is or is not with DNA. All I know is that Dean Blechman is DEFINITELY the CEO of the company and time will tell if I'm right or wrong about them. If checks start flying and people start getting paid that will tell a lot don't you think? But you really need to stop assuming you know things when you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about...seriously it's going to get you into trouble when you say the wrong thing about the wrong person.

Look, I have 3 beautiful children and one on the way. You have no idea what my life has been like. I donate THOUSANDS of dollars to my church, I help out people in need, I give people's money back when they ask for it after purchasing something from me that they are unhappy with, I help people as much as I possibly can and I try to give back any time I get the chance. I work VERY HARD to be a good influence and a light in this world and I don't appreciate people like you coming along and trying to destroy everything I have worked for just because you have nothing better to do than to sit around trying to figure everyone out and call everyone and anything that is successful a SCAM or a CON ARTIST. I think it's about time you look up the definition of a CON ARTIST and then look up the definition of defamation because I've had about all I'm going to take of this.

Take me seriously.

[stopscammers]

u r going to need a lawyer once all hell breaks lose for dna and picolo.

[littleroundman]

Originally Posted by jefflong

Take me seriously.

That's a big ask for someone who likes to play at the fringes of decency.

How can people "take you seriously" when you:

a) Are involved with an obvious ponzi scam like Data Network Affiliates

b) Promote a pyramid fraud such as "You Can't Sat No" and are even featured on their webpage: Jeff Long Florida
http://www.youcantsayno.com/

c) admit starting and promoting illegal cash gifting programs.

[executive33]

This will be my last post unless they decide to reply back with something worth responding to such as a deposit. I did receive a response from Jeff Long.

Getting a response from Jeff Long was never really the problem as it was a problem but not THE problem. I was sending him an email per day for about a week or two until he responded and he was pleasant as he always was and is pleasant. He always said the same thing, that he would take care of this asap.

I never did get a deposit. He sends me a response here by email on scam.com but the email is not the same as the one in which he recommended we contact him on the instant capture page site.

I WILL NOT respond to him outside of what I have already done which now is through the ticket support center where I have about 5 or 6 support tickets that have been sent.

I get responses from the ticket center and they say the same thing, sorry for the delay in response to your situation and we shall forward this to the right people. I thought they were the right people. I got one asking me to notify them when and if I see a deposit into my account. I received no deposits.

My point now is why respond by email as that never worked before. I have support tickets open so just go through the support tickets and respond. Not hard, not difficult as that is the point of the support ticket center. It's for support, I think.

If I need to respond now by email then what was or is the point of the support ticket system?

I will wait on the support tickets to be answered and my deposit to be issued and if not then this will be the end of this thread for me. If I get a deposit then I will respond here with that fact.

I also want to state on record that Jeff Long has always been pleasant and warm in all email responses to me in the past. I don't question him personally or judge him directly. I just want my money, it's that simple.

He does have a family and a child on the way per his comment so congrats Jeff on the new baby.

As it pertains to the business listed above in a previous post about youcantsayno. I know the owner of that company and we're friends and he is a decent person and that site is legit.

Over and out!! (for now) :)

[executive33]

Update: I sent Jeff an email by way of the contact email that he provided me so I have taken steps to reach out to him again by email.

I feel like this will be the end to this and can be put to bed. I'm waiting on Jeff now as it's in his court.

He knows who I am so I wait and see.

I will update with outcome here.

[executive33]

UPDATE: Jeff Long has paid!!!

This shows me that he is a man of integrity and character
and even though he takes on a bit more than he can chew at times, I sense and know in my heart that his intentions are good. He is not looking to screw or scam anyone.

That is not his goal as that would make no sense if it was.

Thanks Jeff for being a man of your word.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Originally Posted by littleroundman

That's a big ask for someone who likes to play at the fringes of decency.

How can people "take you seriously" when you:

a) Are involved with an obvious ponzi scam like Data Network Affiliates

b) Promote a pyramid fraud such as "You Can't Sat No" and are even featured on their webpage: Jeff Long Florida
http://www.youcantsayno.com/

c) admit starting and promoting illegal cash gifting programs.

Sarah (some of you may remember "bunnyberries") just reported to me that Jeff Long tried promoting Connecting Us All to her this week. Bad idea, Jeff. Very bad idea.

Ever heard of the RICO Act? Look it up. Then look at them more closely.