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Old 10-29-2007, 07:04 AM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

The companies offering to let you become a travel agent and get travel discounts while making money may sound great. But they are not what they claim to be and you will not make any money with them.

Your Travel Biz, or YTB, Traverus and World Ventures allow you to receive an official travel agent number so you can obtain travel discounts. But is it worth it? NO!!!!!!

You'll spend up to $500 in setup fees, plus $20 to $50 per month to become a referring travel agent.

The Outside Sales and Support Network, an association of home-based travel agents, said most travel suppliers now have distinct tiers of discounts, with referring agents receiving the smallest of discounts.

These companies make 80 to 90 percent of their money selling their business model, not travel.

Bottom line, if you're thinking of becoming a travel agent only for the discounts, think again.



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Old 10-29-2007, 08:14 PM
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The companies offering to let you become a travel agent and get travel discounts while making money may sound great. But they are not what they claim to be and you will not make any money with them.
Ahhh...I wouldn't say that I haven't made money with YTB, and I'm not talking about "recruiting" either.

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=4...postcount=1293

Clearly, you make of YTB, TraVerus, or World Ventures what you WANT to make it.

I don't why you people want to knock something you know nothing about. I'm really getting tired of these idiots who "think" they know it all.

Clearly..."thinkin" doesn't get you very far..."doin" does.



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Old 10-29-2007, 08:46 PM
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Sure... then you took the chopper back to your private yacht and set sail..:drunk:

Lets see if the average rep that has been with YTB at least 12 months makes about $20 a month in travel comissions...

Hmm put 200 reps together and maybe you could make enough to support 1 person.....

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Whats wrong with you Chris......are you still pissed that you were over looked for that promotion this year....again!



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Old 10-29-2007, 10:29 PM
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Whats wrong with you Chris......are you still pissed that you were over looked for that promotion this year....again!
No I was just enjoying the little story you wrote..... I just wish it wasn't such a fairy tail... Most people in YTB can barely afford a nice dinner for two at McDonalds with their monthly travel comissions check so yours was pretty un-believable...

And amazingly enough - I make more than $20/month and my J.O.B. - which is more than half of the people who have been working hard at YTB for over a year made selling travel...

How much would it suck to pay over a thousand dollars and work hard for a year just to make $20 selling travel. Boy would I be pissed off...



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Old 10-29-2007, 11:40 PM
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A stock split? Is that your new reason they can't be a Pyramid scheme? After they were delisted to the pink sheets which isn't even a stock exchange.....

Anyway the point is that almost all of their comissions come from recruiting... and being a member of the DSA doesn't change that...
Yet we throw these numbers out for EVERYONE to see, and not one Government Agency, FTC, AG, or otherwise has agreed with you that YTB is an illegal pyramid scheme.

Son, I don't think God himself could come down and change the fact that YOU think it looks like pyramid.

We just need to accept this defect of yours and move on.



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Old 10-30-2007, 12:59 AM
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Ahhh Chris the first signs of jealousy are always denial....But thats okay ol buddy......Next time you get ready to spead some of that hard earned money you made working for Taco Bell you give me a call and Ill make sure you get a good deal.....Maybe we can set something up for you to head down to Mexico and see how real burritos are made! Sound like fun to you?



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Old 11-07-2007, 09:02 AM
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Yet we throw these numbers out for EVERYONE to see, and not one Government Agency, FTC, AG, or otherwise has agreed with you that YTB is an illegal pyramid scheme.
Not yet....



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Frankly, though, I'd rather stop discussing ACN.


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Q: How many RTAs does it take to book a cruise for a family of four?

A: 25: 1 to book the trip and 24 to pay fees to support the people at the top of the pyramid!
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:34 AM
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Not yet....
LOL! How much longer are we going to have to "wait and see"?

Dude, it's been almost 7 years? Just this summer the SEC approved the stock split, the DSA approved our membership, we have a Florida State Senator on our Board of Directors. We've gotten more press than any other travel MLM out there. Heck, we're front page news right now.

And you keep hanging on to "Not yet"?

Get a clue.



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Old 11-07-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

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Ahhh...I wouldn't say that I haven't made money with YTB, and I'm not talking about "recruiting" either.

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=4...postcount=1293

Clearly, you make of YTB, TraVerus, or World Ventures what you WANT to make it.

I don't why you people want to knock something you know nothing about. I'm really getting tired of these idiots who "think" they know it all.

Clearly..."thinkin" doesn't get you very far..."doin" does.
So the fact that RTAs have paid 68 MILLION dollars more in fees than they have been paid in travel comission over the past 18 months (jan06-june07) just seems to imply that most RTAs are losing money.

Here are the exact numbers:
http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=451044&postcount=641

And just to be clear - thats not how much they paid in fees- thats how much MORE the fees were than the travel comissions......

Is there any other MLM where their members have lost so much money trying to sell the product?



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Old 11-07-2007, 05:00 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

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LOL! How much longer are we going to have to "wait and see"?

Dude, it's been almost 7 years? Just this summer the SEC approved the stock split, the DSA approved our membership, we have a Florida State Senator on our Board of Directors. We've gotten more press than any other travel MLM out there. Heck, we're front page news right now.

And you keep hanging on to "Not yet"?

Get a clue.
you know, never once in my life have I seen the owner of a company "begging" the RTA's to book travel to "secure the future for ytb". Little worried eh?

Tomorrow is November 9th.



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Frankly, though, I'd rather stop discussing ACN.


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Q: How many RTAs does it take to book a cruise for a family of four?

A: 25: 1 to book the trip and 24 to pay fees to support the people at the top of the pyramid!
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

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you know, never once in my life have I seen the owner of a company "begging" the RTA's to book travel to "secure the future for ytb". Little worried eh?

Tomorrow is November 9th.
LOL! Watch and learn Rookie. Watch and learn.



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Old 11-08-2007, 12:05 AM
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LOL! Watch and learn Rookie. Watch and learn.
hahaha, rookie. Nice, now your turning to insults. Is ytb gonna beg for the RTA's to ...lets see, how did coach put it..."secure the future for ytb in this industry".

I'm not saying you won't book a bunch of cruises, I'm sure you will, as emotionally charged as the video is, BEGGING for RTA's to book cruises. It was a pathetic display of leadership. Funny thing is RC could give a rats behind obviously they have a simple issue with the concept of what YTB and other companies like yours represent.



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Frankly, though, I'd rather stop discussing ACN.


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Q: How many RTAs does it take to book a cruise for a family of four?

A: 25: 1 to book the trip and 24 to pay fees to support the people at the top of the pyramid!
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:35 AM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

Need confirmation from Traverus' RTAs.

Did Traverus terminate Chuck King couple days ago?

Just curious...



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Old 11-08-2007, 06:00 AM
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hahaha, rookie. Nice, now your turning to insults.
Upset that I call a spade a spade? You insult our Founder with comments that he’s “begging” but can’t take a little backlash?

Typical.

If you don’t like the heat, than stay out of the kitchen Rookie with your own little spin and comments.

Welcome you to the Big Leagues.
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Is ytb gonna beg for the RTA's to ...lets see, how did coach put it..."secure the future for ytb in this industry".
And if you knew anything about this industry you’d know that several companies like ours had defining moments in their companies history much like what is happening to YTB today. I won’t bore you with details, but Amway did it with the FTC, PrePaid Legal did it in the Legal Industry, and Primerica did it in the Insurance industry.

Everything changes for YTB after today, and just because some loud mouth like you wants to add his two cents into the equation, doesn’t change that.

Sorry.
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I'm not saying you won't book a bunch of cruises, I'm sure you will, as emotionally charged as the video is, BEGGING for RTA's to book cruises. It was a pathetic display of leadership. Funny thing is RC could give a rats behind obviously they have a simple issue with the concept of what YTB and other companies like yours represent.
What Royal Caribbean did was a pathetic Free. Again, you’ve completely missed that no other supplier has gone out to sea with Royal Caribbean.

They’re out there all alone, the engines are off, and they’re watching helplessly while the Most Popular Cruise Line in the World, their biggest competitor, goes after a record with YTB for the most cabins sold in one day. Thousands of cabins being filled by Carnival in one day while Royal Caribbean just sits by helplessly because they have “issues”.

When a simple concept costs them money and market share, any issues are more reflective of them, rather than us.
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Need confirmation from Traverus' RTAs.

Did Traverus terminate Chuck King couple days ago?

Just curious...
From the post below, I would assume so. Two companies giving him the boot in less than a year.

Can’t say I’m all that terribly upset about his luck however. What goes around, comes around.
http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=451528&postcount=659



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Old 11-08-2007, 09:32 AM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

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What Royal Caribbean did was a pathetic Free. Again, you’ve completely missed that no other supplier has gone out to sea with Royal Caribbean.

They’re out there all alone, the engines are off, and they’re watching helplessly while the Most Popular Cruise Line in the World, their biggest competitor, goes after a record with YTB for the most cabins sold in one day. Thousands of cabins being filled by Carnival in one day while Royal Caribbean just sits by helplessly because they have “issues”.
You should go into writing trashing novels.... "All Alone", "The Engines are off"......

You act like YTB is anything more than a tiny blip on the RCCL radar. RCCL is almost a 9 billion dollar company who did 5 billion in sales last year.... Do you think they really care about YTB's 13 million dollars in sales?

13 million dollars is something like 1/4th of 1% of their revenues...



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Old 11-08-2007, 10:04 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

As of now, YTB Sail-a-thon has 7560 bookings for Carnival Cruise today.

Woww...

https://www.ytb.com/BackOffice/sailathon/index.html

Wowwww...



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Old 11-09-2007, 01:06 AM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

YTB RTAs have 13000+ bookings for Carnival Cruise in less than 24 hrs (Nov. 8, 2007)

Any challengers?



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Old 11-09-2007, 05:59 AM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

Guys,

The 13,000 is only a total of what was called into the Home Office and consisted mostly of Gift Certificates which ranged from $398 to $5000.

At Midnight last night we still had no idea what bookings were made either on line from all our web sites, through our vendor TravTech, and what was done directly with the Carnival Office in Miami over the phone.

Both YTB and Carnival will be putting all the numbers together and having them verified before we release something on Tuesday. We will also release our 3rd Quarter numbers on Tuesday.

Speculate all you want, but we're going to have to wait until Tuesday to find out what these numbers really are.



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Old 11-12-2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

A sad week is happening in the home based travel industry.

It seems that YTB has lost it's credentials with Iatan.
THis comes just weeks after Royal Carribean Cruise Lines cut their bookings with YTB.

Many people are making the move over to TraVerus.
Make the move before your upline does and join our family.

You can be mad, angry, quit, or move on.

We will welcome you and you group with open arms in what will become the largest seller of leisure travel on the planet.

Become a CERTIFIED travel agent with a licensed and bonded travel agency.

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Old 11-13-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

hammertime "It seems that YTB has lost it's credentials with Iatan."

Do you have any proof? It's wise "to stay tuned and give it some time" (quoted from Malique2).



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Old 11-13-2007, 01:14 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

Here is what happens when you type in YTB's IATAN#

http://bp2.blogger.com/_eHzLCV2RSqc/...TB-INVALID.jpg

It's time to look at TraVerus!

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Old 11-13-2007, 01:22 PM
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hammertime "It seems that YTB has lost it's credentials with Iatan."

Do you have any proof? It's wise "to stay tuned and give it some time" (quoted from Malique2).

Guess you didn't have to wait long...

http://bp2.blogger.com/_eHzLCV2RSqc/...TB-INVALID.jpg

Goodbye to the best perks you could get!



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Old 11-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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LOL! How much longer are we going to have to "wait and see"?

Dude, it's been almost 7 years? Just this summer the SEC approved the stock split, the DSA approved our membership, we have a Florida State Senator on our Board of Directors. We've gotten more press than any other travel MLM out there. Heck, we're front page news right now.

And you keep hanging on to "Not yet"?

Get a clue.
This is pretty funny when you realize "Coach" was just saying this last week......Looks like the wait is over....



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Old 11-13-2007, 04:31 PM
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Funny how things got quiet in here all of a suddent...people must be scrambling for answers. TravelProTeam has not been seen since.



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Old 11-13-2007, 04:40 PM
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This is pretty funny when you realize "Coach" was just saying this last week......Looks like the wait is over....
Chris;

Please do not put words in my mouth, or try to inflect that I said something meaning something entirely different.

Please “read for content”. Here is what you’re quote is in reference too.
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Yet we throw these numbers out for EVERYONE to see, and not one Government Agency, FTC, AG, or otherwise has agreed with you that YTB is an illegal pyramid scheme.

Son, I don't think God himself could come down and change the fact that YOU think it looks like pyramid.

We just need to accept this defect of yours and move on.
The IATA issue has not only has nothing to do with YTB being an illegal pyramid, it does not interfere with our ability to sell and get paid on travel.

That's a low blow...even for you.



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Old 11-13-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

Coach's Corner......Denile is not just a River in Egypt.

All your vendors are pulling out and so did IATA.

What more proof do you need.

Fire the "Coach" already.
Anyone in their sane mind can see what is happening.

Don't get left behind.......The S.S. YTB is sinking and Traverus is throwing you a life boat.

John
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ps. Coach is going to be in Chicago tonight for a YTB meeting.......LMAO
Let's see how he "Spins" this one.



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Old 11-13-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

IATA means very little to ytb anyway.

Their CLIA # is used for most packages and tour operators and of course the cruise lines.

In addition - I would imagine that they would just buy out an existing agency or just become an affiliate with WCT for air, hotel and rental car. I mean - they were using WCT 95% of the time anyway.

So far - rta's needing to book RCCL can just do it through other channels anyway - no big deal.

Guess we'll see.

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Old 11-13-2007, 05:19 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

" Coach's Corner......Denile is not just a River in Egypt. "

LOL - please use spellcheck - you make yourself look foolish.

" All your vendors are pulling out and so did IATA. "

Name 6?

" Don't get left behind.......The S.S. YTB is sinking and Traverus is throwing you a life boat. "

How would someone "throw" a boat? I assume you meant "ring" or "preserver" ?

Traverus my friend will be targeted just the same. The only reason you haven't been yet is no one knows you exist. I mean - you guys aren't even booking a mill a month in travel yet . . .

If ytb goes down - then the rest will follow - including traverus.

We'll see . . .

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Old 11-13-2007, 05:39 PM
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Chris;

Please do not put words in my mouth, or try to inflect that I said something meaning something entirely different.

Please “read for content”. Here is what you’re quote is in reference too.

The IATA issue has not only has nothing to do with YTB being an illegal pyramid, it does not interfere with our ability to sell and get paid on travel.

That's a low blow...even for you.

I didn't put words in your mouth - I quoted your complete post. What are you saying? that the DSA could decide if you were an illegal pyramid scheme? All they could do is refuse to do business with you.....Seriously, quit splitting hairs... One week ago you were just saying your still waiting for the axe to fall...

And like an Omen - your timing couldn't have been worse...

FYI here is your full original post...And your timing is pretty funny:

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=451401&postcount=108
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"LOL! How much longer are we going to have to "wait and see"?

Dude, it's been almost 7 years? Just this summer the SEC approved the stock split, the DSA approved our membership, we have a Florida State Senator on our Board of Directors. We've gotten more press than any other travel MLM out there. Heck, we're front page news right now.

And you keep hanging on to "Not yet"?"

Get a clue."
If you get kicked off the pink sheets and the DSA kicks you out are you going to say you only meant that the FTC never shut you down for being a pyramid scheme?
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:43 PM
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Well if it aint Uncle Tom, Shut up uncle Tom you ole Fart!

Its me I been chilling, traveling every week!

Just to let you know its all true and Traverus has its marbles in place so we will not be targets, oh yes we will. Targeted to receive the awards and super deals once the hyped agencies are wipped completely out...

Just to let you know we are a 26 year brick and motar Uncle Tom. A million in sales, we did that years ago ole man lol!

Love you but had to correct ya post...God Bless..
Visit the blog below if your in ytb and ready to make some true money and receive 70% commision for travel booked along with 12 days payout ways to earn income......
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:01 PM
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Is Ytb A scam or is traverus cheating, look

i have to say i allmost signed with ytb but while doing research i found traverus. traverus looked great it was what i was looking for. then i decided to google traverus. great the homepage popped up but then i noticed that you could book through the main web page. why would i want to compete with the main leg of the company? so if anyone in the world googles traverus they will book it through the home site.so i called a rep and he explained to poor old dumb me that this wasnt competition and that noone uses google........i must have missed the bus on that but traverus missed me.......cant sign with a company that steals the thunder from its reps....guess ytb will be my choice....google ytb and can you book through their home site? no! traverus you would have had me if not for that and the poor rep who tried to show me the only way to his site was to type in his www. at the top of the toolbar.....get a domain......thought this would be food for thought.....roy fenwick.




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Old 11-13-2007, 06:06 PM
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:49 PM
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Hey roy Traverus Young Gunner here buddy, great post, I wish others would do what you did, which was research and made the right decision..

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Old 11-13-2007, 06:54 PM
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:42 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

Fact-IATAN the governing body of the airlines just cut YTB's credentials off.

Fact-Rhode Island's Attorney General just cut YTB off in that state. More investigations are pending.

Fact-YTB's stock is basically worthless.

Fact-Royal Caribbean, Perillo Tours, Celtic Tours and others have discontinued doing business with them.



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Old 11-13-2007, 09:25 PM
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lady said -

" Fact-IATAN the governing body of the airlines just cut YTB's credentials off. "

Who cares? IATAN is weak in todays world of travel.

" Fact-Rhode Island's Attorney General just cut YTB off in that state. More investigations are pending. "

Fact? Says who? Please show the documents where the AG in RI "cut off" ytb or any of their reps or rtas? Thanks in advance!

" Fact-YTB's stock is basically worthless. "

Why then is it worth more @ 10:22pm on the 13th than it was 5 days ago? It's "worth more" - not "worth less" . . . You sicken me with your bull chit . . .

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Old 11-13-2007, 10:15 PM
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a winter I am with Traverus, just ask about me in the company, majority know who I am......Ask on the board..Im one of the youngest top executives.....



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Old 11-13-2007, 11:58 PM
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lady said -

" Fact-IATAN the governing body of the airlines just cut YTB's credentials off. "

Who cares? IATAN is weak in todays world of travel.
Kinda funny - since all the pro YTBrs were bragging about how they had been accepted to the DSA... So being in the DSA extremely huge news.. IATA, RCCL, and all those other companies kicking out YTB isn't very important..

Do you really expect people to buy that spin?



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Old 11-14-2007, 12:04 AM
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LOL Yo Chris, you will be suprised at how Coch and his son got there ytb mummies brain washed.....They pros at sellin hype lol!!!!!!

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Old 11-14-2007, 04:56 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

Six Suppliers
  1. Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines
  2. Celebrity Cruise Lines
  3. Azamara Cruises
  4. Pilgrim Tours
  5. Perrillo Tours
  6. Celtic Tours
  7. Qantas Vacations
  8. Tauck Tours (coming)

Per the Department of Business Regulation in Rhode Island:
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You will be able to get a good understanding of the RI Department of Business Regulation's oversight of the travel industry by referring to Rhode Island General Laws Section 5-52-1 et. seq. and Commercial Licensing Regulation 12. Note that the Regulation is posted on our website, www.dbr.state.ri.us.
Finally, I can confirm that this Agency is reviewing and evaluating the YTB business model, as it relates to the law and regulation cited above.
Richard Berstein
RI DBR Executive Counsel
And a DSA card (which may also be revoked) will not get you any discounts on travel.

Most land based tour operators do not accept the CLIA card simply because it is not nearly as defining as the IATAN card. So unless the perks are solely cruises, they are going out the window,

I do not think the house cleaning is over by a long shot. Stay tuned.

Interesting blogs

http://travel-pro.blogspot.com (Pro YTB)
http://notravelmlms.blogspot.com (Anti MLM)



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Old 11-14-2007, 05:09 PM
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LOL good grief the vultures (oh I mean traverus people)
are circling aren't they?
I think they think that they aren't a MLM???:shocked:

AND I think that they think they can get 50,000 YTBpeople to join their MLM card mill LMAO!

Right....dream on!

YTB whatever you do dont fall into the trap of joining any other MLM host agency!! They all are about to fall and fail!



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Old 11-15-2007, 04:59 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

john -

You and I both know that an agency can go direct with any vendor.

IATAN, CLIA, etc - not needed in the new world of travel.

YTB will be just fine.

Tom

p.s. - Those suppliers you mentioned are little fish in the pond.



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Old 11-15-2007, 06:17 PM
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Watch the advice you take from individuals that are not even in the travel industry at all. Just here to instigate lol!

Beware.......

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Old 11-15-2007, 08:45 PM
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I called IATAN, its true.



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Old 11-15-2007, 10:19 PM
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Ytb folks switching like crazy, watch what happens in the next few days.............My God!

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Old 11-15-2007, 11:22 PM
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john -

You and I both know that an agency can go direct with any vendor.

IATAN, CLIA, etc - not needed in the new world of travel.

YTB will be just fine.

Tom

p.s. - Those suppliers you mentioned are little fish in the pond.

So Royal Caribean (about a 9 Billion dollar company) is a little fish, but YTB who is worth about 1-2% of that, is not a tiny guppy?

Sure...... :surprised:



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Old 11-15-2007, 11:30 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

Uncle Tom don't know squat! Just ignore him, he just like to post and keep the threads going. I Love that ole fart thought. Going to give him a call soon..........................



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Old 11-16-2007, 07:55 AM
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LOL D - you know I know more about travel and mlm's than you and your entire company - even Tim . . .

All I'm saying that is unless other major vendors join in - RCCL is just a hiccup. IATAN is meaningless based on ytb's affiliation with WCT.

Now - if Carnival and GoGo drop ytb - then, that is different.

But - in the end - all travel mlm's - wv, traverus and others will be in the same boat. I really can't figure out why traverus reps think they are above this situation. Only because traverus books so little travel that the major vendors and the travel associations don't know who they are. If it happens to ytb - it will happen to all.

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Old 11-16-2007, 08:52 PM
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Uncle Tom, the thing with you is that you know to darn much! SHUT UP! LOL

Rhode Island's AG's office has deemed YTB a pyramid scheme. That's now the east coast and the west coast. What will be the new's tommorow???

A quick hint. When the AG's get hold of you it is a matter of time. Really going to get bad when they realize they have no product and telling people they get savings, perks, and benifits plus Travel commissions which is no longer true oiutside of CLIA it is a wrap.

They are telling people now IATAN was no big deal????

Time will tell,



Can somebody answer me this question.........If your with YTB can you book through RCCL? LOL!

In Traverus you can so send me a email and lets get your rolling in the doe...
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: Is Ytb A Pyramid Scheme/scam? Impossible!

" If your with YTB can you book through RCCL? "

Yes.

ytb reps can book RCCL products through a 3rd party - or another host. Many already are . . .

In addition - any ytb reps needing to book a client into RCCL (why who knows) - give me a call and we'll run it under one of our #'s - and you will earn your normal commissions - including over-rides.

Like I said - just a hiccup.

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