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Old 05-03-2012, 12:08 AM
mannnu mannnu is offline
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Money receiving and fee payment

Hi,

Wanted to ask one question. I should pay "commison fee" if i receive money. So i'm littlebit confused right now.
So called investor says: You will pay the your cost on the moment you call your Bank and the bank confirm you that you have the Capital then you pay the Comission not upfront.
This sound not real to me. Is it possible to "call back" money that they have send me?
I think i should tell them, that after money is my company bank account i will do wire tranfer?
Or how i should act?
I'm so affraid that this will be another scam(different than the other upfront fee scams)and i will lose lot of money(because commision fee is really big sum).


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Old 05-03-2012, 07:38 AM
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Re: Money receiving and fee payment

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Originally Posted by mannnu View Post
Hi,

Wanted to ask one question. I should pay "commison fee" if i receive money. So i'm littlebit confused right now.
So called investor says: You will pay the your cost on the moment you call your Bank and the bank confirm you that you have the Capital then you pay the Comission not upfront.
This sound not real to me. Is it possible to "call back" money that they have send me?
I think i should tell them, that after money is my company bank account i will do wire tranfer?
Or how i should act?
I'm so affraid that this will be another scam(different than the other upfront fee scams)and i will lose lot of money(because commision fee is really big sum).
What are you taking about ?
I suspect somebody wants to send you a worthless piece of paper, which you give to your bank, and before the bank bounces it back to you, you have to send some money via Western Union ?

What is the money being sent to you for exactly ? Why do these people want to give you money ?




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Old 05-03-2012, 01:29 PM
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Re: Money receiving and fee payment

100% scam.

There is no job.

There is only a scammer trying to steal your hard-earned money.

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This sound not real to me. Is it possible to "call back" money that they have send me?
I think i should tell them, that after money is my company bank account i will do wire tranfer?

Since NO real money is actually being transferred, there is no way to "call back" non-existent money. Eventually your bank will CANCEL the transfer. If YOU have sent YOUR money to the scammers, it is gone forever. The ONLY money being transferred here is YOUR money TO the scammer.

The next email will be from another of the scammer's fake names and free email addresses pretending to be the "secretary/assistant/accountant" and will demand you accept a fake bank deposit. The deposit will be from a stolen credit card, hi-jacked paypal account or phished bank account. You are then suppose to withdrawal the money before your bank realizes the transfer was made with stolen money. You are suppose to send the "money" via Western Union or moneygram back to the scammer posing as the "supply company" while you "keep" a small portion. When the credit card/paypal/bank account owner realizes their money is in your account, your bank reverses the transfer now you get the real life job of paying back the bank for all the bank's money you sent to an overseas criminal.

Then the local law enforcement agency comes knocking asking why are you accepting money from people you don't know, have never met and have no idea in what country they reside. By now your bank account is permanently closed and you are "black listed" by all financial institutions as someone who laundries money for criminals via Western Union or moneygram.

Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.

When you refuse to withdrawal the stolen money and send the scammer your cash he will send increasingly nasty and rude emails trying to convince you to go through with his scam. The scammer could also create another fake name and email address like "FBI@ gmail.com", "police_person @hotmail.com" or "investigator @yahoo.com" and send emails telling you the job is legit and you must withdrawal the money and send your cash to the scammer or you will face legal action. Just ignore, delete and block those email addresses. Although, reading a scammer's attempts at impersonating a law enforcement official can be extremely funny.

Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don't bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn't worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

6 "Rules to follow" to avoid most fake jobs:
1) Job asks you to use your personal bank account and/or open a new one.
2) Job asks you to print/mail/cash a check or money order.
3) Job asks you to use Western Union or moneygram in any capacity.
4) Job asks you to accept packages and re-ship them on to anyone.
5) Job asks you to pay visas, travel fees via Western Union or moneygram.
6) Job asks you to sign up for a credit reporting or identity verification site.

Avoiding all jobs that mention any of the above listed 'red flags' and you will miss nearly all fake jobs. Only scammers ask you to do any of the above. No. Exceptions. Ever. For any reason.

If you google "fake check cashing job", "fake job bank account Western Union scam", "money mule moneygram scam" or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near-victims of this type of scam.
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