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Old 04-20-2012, 05:28 PM
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DEMS KILL CRACKDOWN ON TEACHER-STUDENT SEX
'Another reason for conscientious parents to flee government school system'

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Majority Democrats on a California state legislative committee have decided to kill a plan that would have cracked down on intimate relationships between school teachers and their students, prompting a pro-family organization to warn that it is just another reason for parents to pull their children from the government education industry.

Assembly Bill 1861 would have made it a felony if any teacher or employee of a public or private school “engages in a sexual relationship or inappropriate communications with a pupil.”


“This is yet another reason for conscientious parents to flee the dysfunctional, immoral, and imploding government school system for church schools and home schools, which are much safer physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually,” said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com.

“Why are Democrat legislators supporting child sex abuse? Why don’t they care about children’s immature hearts and minds being immorally manipulated and sexually seduced by public school teachers,” he continued. “It is certifiably evil that this bill to protect schoolchildren’s bodies was defeated by this Democrat-controlled committee.”

It died in the Assembly Public Safety Committee, and according to the Sacramento Bee, critics worried that it would duplicate laws already on the books against sex between adults and children, and also could be used to prosecute those who text messages and exchange emails concerning various pieces of literature, such as the “Great Gatsby.”

The vote was 3-0, with one Democrat not voting and the two Republicans on the committee absent.

See the “big list” of female teachers who have preyed on students.

The proposal had been prompted by the recent case in which a student, 18-year-old Jordan Powers, moved in with a teacher, 41-year-old James Hooker. The two claimed Powers was of age, 18, before their relationship became romantic.

However, reports in the last few days indicate the couple may have split.

Kristin Olsen, a Republican member of the Assembly, from Modesto, introduced the proposal, noting in comments about the legislation that it took aim at the “growing problem where teachers, administrators, or other school employees have been engaging in sexual acts, relations or inappropriate communications like lewd text messages or sexting with their students.”

The Mercury News, reported Olsen accused her fellow lawmakers of abandoning the children.

“The committee today stood up for predators and union bosses instead of students,” she told the newspaper.

The chairman of the committee, Tom Ammiano, however, told the Bee that the state needs to protect free speech “even when we don’t like it.”

Thomasson openly questioned the use of the term “free speech” for communications that could include “sexting” messages and the like.

His organization promotes the Rescue Your Child website, which encourages parents to seek out church schools or homeschooling options for their children.

His group explains that already in California’s public schools children as young as 5th and 7th grades are told they have the “individual” and “personal” right to engage in “respectful” sexual activity with anyone as long as it is consensual and that males wear a condom.

SaveCalifornia.com is a leading West Coast nonprofit, nonpartisan organization standing for moral virtues for the common good, working on issues of marriage and family, parental rights, the sanctity of human life, religious freedom, financial freedom, and back-to-basics education.

It previously has reported on issues involving morality in public schools in California.

One recent development was the launch of the Stop SB48 coalition.

It is to seek the repeal of SB 48, described as a controversial mandate that requires positive portrayals of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons in public school social studies and history classes. It has been widely criticized for shifting the focus from achievements and historical milestones to individuals’ sexuality.

SB48 is one of many sexual indoctrination laws in the law, critics said.

Others cited by Thomasson’s group:

SB 543, signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2010, “allows school staff to remove children ages 12 and up from government schools and taken off-campus for counseling sessions, without parental permission or involvement. The purpose is to permit pro-homosexuality teachers and administrators to remove sexually confused children in 6th grade and up from campus and take them to pro-homosexuality counselors who will encourage them to embrace the homosexual lifestyle.”
ACR 82, approved by the California Legislature in 2010, “creates de facto ‘morality-free zones’ at participating schools (pre-kindergarten through public universities). Schools that become official ‘Discrimination-Free Zones’ will ‘enact procedures’ (including mandatory counseling) against students from pre-kindergarten on up who are accused of ‘hate,’ ‘intolerance,’ or ‘discrimination’.” What is the hate? Peacefully speaking or writing against the unnatural lifestyles choices of homosexuality and bisexuality.
SB 572, signed by Schwarzenegger in 2009, establishes “Harvey Milk Day” in K-12 California public schools and community colleges. In classrooms, schools and school districts that participate, children will now be taught to admire the life and values of late homosexual activist and teen predator Harvey Milk of San Francisco the month of May.
SB 777, signed by Schwarzenegger in 2007, prohibits all public school instruction and every school activity from “promoting a discriminatory bias” against (effectively requiring positive depictions of) transsexuality, bisexuality and homosexuality to schoolchildren as young as five years old. SB 777 means children will be taught their “gender” is a matter of choice.
AB 394, signed by Schwarzenegger in 2007, effectively promotes transsexual, bisexual and homosexual indoctrination of students, parents and teachers via “anti-harassment” and “anti-discrimination” materials, to be publicized in classrooms and assemblies, posted on walls, incorporated into curricula on school websites, and distributed in handouts to take home.
SB 71, signed by Gov. Gray Davis in 2003 and implemented in 2008 through the new “sexual health” standards approved by appointees of Schwarzenegger and State Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O’Connell, teaches children as young as 5th grade that any consensual sexual behavior is “safe” as long as you “protect” yourself with a condom, and teaches children that homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality is “normal.”
AB 1785, signed by Davis in 2000, required the California State Board of Education to alter the state curriculum frameworks to include and require “human relations education” for children in K-12 public schools, with the aim of “fostering an appreciation of the diversity of California’s population and discouraging the development of discriminatory attitudes and practices,” according to the state legislative counsel’s digest.
AB 537, signed by Davis in 1999, permits teachers and students to openly proclaim and display their homosexuality, bisexuality or transsexuality, even permitting cross-dressing teachers, school employees and student on campus, in classrooms, and in restrooms.
SB 48 takes the state even a step beyond its demand that students in public schools every year honor Harvey Milk, a homosexual activist and reported sexual predator, as well as an advocate for Jim Jones, leader of the massacred hundreds in Jonestown, Guyana.

In honoring Milk, schools are advocating for the acceptance of what Milk sought: the entire homosexual, bisexual and cross-dressing agenda; a refusal to acknowledge sexually transmitted diseases spread by the behavior; his behavior as “a sexual predator of teenage boys, most of them runaways with drug problems”; advocacy for multiple sexual relationships at one time; and “lying to get ahead”; according to SaveCalifornia.com.

A 1982 biography of Milk tells of a 16-year-old named McKinley, who “was looking for some kind of father figure.”

“At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him,” the book says.

It also states, “It would be to boyish-looking men in their late teens and early 20s that Milk would be attracted for the rest of his life.”


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Old 04-20-2012, 05:45 PM
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Personally I'd like to say that I'm really sorry that you had to go through whatever it was in your childhood that makes this so close to home for you. And I hope someday you can get help for and relief from the inner emotional turmoil we see you wrestle with daily here.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:00 PM
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It died in the Assembly Public Safety Committee, and according to the Sacramento Bee, critics worried that it would duplicate laws already on the books against sex between adults and children, and also could be used to prosecute those who text messages and exchange emails concerning various pieces of literature, such as the “Great Gatsby.”
So you're in favor of legal gridlock?

Also in favor of skewing the issue.

Also ... a total nutcase.

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So you're in favor of legal gridlock?

Also in favor of skewing the issue.

Also ... a total nutcase.
The intent of the law is clear, as is the reason for liberals rejecting it.


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The intent of the law is clear, as is the reason for liberals rejecting it.


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The intent of the law is clear, as is the reason for liberals rejecting it.


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It looks like the existing law covers it, in which case ... is this grandstanding? Perhaps?

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The word "filth" gets used so much here that I'm surprised the site doesn't come up in Google searches for laundry soap and toilet bowl cleaner....lol
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It was immediately obvious this is a political grandstanding argument by idiots, as soon as I read this:

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“This is yet another reason for conscientious parents to flee the dysfunctional, immoral, and imploding government school system for church schools and home schools, which are much safer physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually,” said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com.
I'd also like to point out that those who are raging about this at "savecalifornia.com" sound like people "filth" would better apply to.

Looking at their website, they hate everyone who isnt straight. Filth indeed. Filthy bigots.

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“This is yet another reason for conscientious parents to flee the dysfunctional, immoral, and imploding government school system for church schools and home schools, which are much safer physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually,”

I guess this person doesn't know about the Catholic child sex scandals...

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“This is yet another reason for conscientious parents to flee the dysfunctional, immoral, and imploding government school system for church schools and home schools, which are much safer physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually,”

I guess this person doesn't know about the Catholic child sex scandals...

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Has anyone here actually read the proposed law that is discussed?

Here is the important part of the proposed law (Bill AB 1861):

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States that any teacher or employee of a public or private elementary or secondary school who engages in a sexual relationship or inappropriate communication with a pupil of any age is guilty of a felony.
The following definition of inappropriate communication is used:

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Defines "inappropriate communication" as any communication by a school teacher or employee to a pupil, regardless of who initiated the communication, that is sexual, lewd or lascivious in nature.
So far so good, but look at the current law in California (Penal Code Section 288.2):

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Prohibits any person, with knowledge that a person is a minor, or who fails to exercise reasonable care in ascertaining the true age of a minor, from knowingly distributing, sending, causing to be sent, exhibiting, or offering to distribute or exhibit by any means, any harmful matter, as specified, to a minor with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust or passions or sexual desires of that person or of a minor, for the purpose of seducing a minor. Violation of this section is either a misdemeanor or a felony, with subsequent offenses being felonies.
Looks like the law already exists. What does the proposed law add?

To me, the people who wrote the proposed law should be charged with wasting taxpayer money, since their work didn't add anything at all in terms of protection for the children.

So, who's in favor of wasting taxpayer money?
I'm not.


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Just pure evil. Crawling for the unions, selling out the the children--all day, every day.


DEMS KILL CRACKDOWN ON TEACHER-STUDENT SEX
'Another reason for conscientious parents to flee government school system'


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Hey Petey... the solution for these problems is for fascist Contards to get a life.

Either that - or get yourselves inflatable rubber lovers so you have less time to posture with some bullshit you can pose yourself with as an acolyte of virtue.

Also, stop shitting in your pants pretending to be for "small government" whenever you're asked for the money to pay for some of your anal retentive reactionary hysterical bullshit laws - a hundred of which get broken by anybody who's crossing the fucking street before they make it to the other side.

We need to start rolling these laws off the books - not concoct more of them just so lying criminal politicians can manipulate and fear monger naive right-wing douche-bags into providing lifetime job security for "tough on crime" politicians.

We've got enough laws already. Got it?

Get this: Americans shouldn't obey bad laws. And that's the one thing we still produce in abundance.

We need to re-engineer the entire concept of criminal justice away from the medieval system we have.

The Drug War should have taught even you that much.

Here's a law I could get behind: Let's put Bible waving control freaks who refuse to mind their own business away.. for the duration..

While we're at it, let's rehabilitate anybody who has deluded themselves into thinking that being The World's foremost prison nation has been a good thing for this country.

And spare us the slogans about Land Of The "Free".

That hasn't been happening on any level whatsoever for almost a century.

And cooking up some more strategies to railroad people into the prison system and criminalize them for life is not a cure for our social ills.

In fact, it's a "cure" that's a million times worse than the disease.


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This person has it right on target in the commentary section:


I don't unthinkingly follow the opinion of every self righteous ultra-conservative pied piper attempting to enforce his or her "lofty" ideals on all other members of society. I think the concerns of those who killed the bill are well founded. Governments and courts are making mountains out of mole hills, and many things are being falsely interpreted to prosecute and incarcerate people who don't belong there. Legislators are destroying peoples lives by going hog wild declaring a broad spectrum of behavior as felonies. Much of government authority is comprised of holier than thou hypocrites who've engaged in that for which they throw others in jail. There are other, less destructive ways, to deal with inappropriate behavior. This is a big reason for the disconnects both between Liberals and Conservatives (though the L and C divide is mainly over which thought or behavior is being declared felonious) and between bureaucrats and the general population.

As with much of the reporting by WND, the great majority of this article is disingenuous, having no bearing on the bill in question. There are laws banning sexual relations with a minor. The level of morality being espoused in schools is a whole different matter, though that is what Kristin Olsen is indirectly trying to control.

“Why are Democrat legislators supporting child sex abuse? Why don’t they care about children’s immature hearts and minds...,”

This is a straw man argument which has nothing to do with the denial of passage of this bill. A person can certainly care about something without agreeing that a certain suggested solution is the correct one.

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