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Old 03-27-2012, 12:15 PM
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So why is so much Amway shiz sold on ebay and craigslist with that foolproof money back guarantee?


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Old 03-27-2012, 12:16 PM
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It is your innocent, hopeful attitude making a very few of them rich. If you are okay with doing that to others, then by all means. That is the piece that you are missing or willing to do. Having said that, I do realize MLMs have a way of making it sound like they are doing you a favor. We've all been there and it's only a matter of time - In MLM, you're one of them, scammer, or one of us, the victim. Sad but true. Haven't you bothered to read all the expose's?

Listen, I knew diamonds and not because of being their downline - It was because of another business and we were not in a subordinate position with them. I can assure you that there is so much more to what you are being told in meetings. It is not until you get into the "club" that the real truth is revealed. In fact, my contempt for MLM is due to them after they suggested the real way to make it in MLM. I know more than you think and it bothers me to see innocent dreamers like yourself.

At the very least, and even if you disagree with me, know my intentions here.

Let it go..... life is too short to keep holding grudges and crying about things in the past. Its very sad.
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Learn to read you fvcking moron. I never claimed those pages were from IBO's.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:17 PM
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So why is so much Amway shiz sold on ebay and craigslist with that foolproof money back guarantee?
As a monthly qualifier could be one reason.
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Learn to read you fvcking moron. I never claimed those pages were from IBO's.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:18 PM
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It is your innocent, hopeful attitude making a very few of them rich. If you are okay with doing that to others, then by all means. That is the piece that you are missing or willing to do. Having said that, I do realize MLMs have a way of making it sound like they are doing you a favor. We've all been there and it's only a matter of time - In MLM, you're one of them, scammer, or one of us, the victim. Sad but true. Haven't you bothered to read all the expose's?

Listen, I knew diamonds and not because of being their downline - It was because of another business and we were not in a subordinate position with them. I can assure you that there is so much more to what you are being told in meetings. It is not until you get into the "club" that the real truth is revealed. In fact, my contempt for MLM is due to them after they suggested the real way to make it in MLM. I know more than you think and it bothers me to see innocent dreamers like yourself.

At the very least, and even if you disagree with me, know my intentions here.
I've got no problems with people trying to share their honest firsthand experience...it is actually commendable..

Problem is it took you a lot of posts to finally post something of substance rather than the typical conjecture and fear mongering that many here like to post.

Better that you post what your experience was with these diamonds in the "good old boy club" you speak of.

what did you learn?

When did you learn it

Real facts are welcomed and appreciated..

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Old 03-27-2012, 12:19 PM
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Real facts are welcomed and appreciated..
Why don't you provide some?

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Old 03-27-2012, 12:21 PM
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Why don't you provide some?
dont mind if I do..

Thanks

14+ flavors
Better tasting without question
8 calories
0 Sugar (no crash)
0 Carbs
60 x the energy vitamins of a Red Bull
Caffeine Free options
Made in America

Under $2 IBO cost..as low as $1.40

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Old 03-27-2012, 12:30 PM
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dont mind if I do..

Thanks

14+ flavors
Better tasting without question
8 calories
0 Sugar (no crash)
0 Carbs
60 x the energy vitamins of a Red Bull
Caffeine Free options
Made in America

Under $2 IBO cost..as low as $1.40
Average income $115 a month.

80% never sponsor a downline

Many IBOs never sell a single product.

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Old 03-27-2012, 12:38 PM
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Average income $115 a month.

80% never sponsor a downline

Many IBOs never sell a single product.
How many have joined just for the products.... the ones that you agree with me are ''only customers''?
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Learn to read you fvcking moron. I never claimed those pages were from IBO's.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:42 PM
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80% never sponsor a downline

Many IBOs never sell a single product.
I posted my facts..

Please post yours..?

Or just be a joker...

Your choice

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Old 03-27-2012, 01:22 PM
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How many have joined just for the products.... the ones that you agree with me are ''only customers''?
That's probably a good excuse to use when your realize you have been conned and don't stand a chance in hell of making a single dime.

People have a natural tendency to save face.

That's pretty sad....especially after purchasing $1000 business box.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:25 PM
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That's probably a good excuse to use when your realize you have been conned and don't stand a chance in hell of making a single dime.

People have a natural tendency to save face.

That's pretty sad....especially after purchasing $1000 business box.
People who join to become customers don't buy $1000 business boxes. Feel free to carry on being the clown though.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:43 PM
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I've got no problems with people trying to share their honest firsthand experience...it is actually commendable..

Problem is it took you a lot of posts to finally post something of substance rather than the typical conjecture and fear mongering that many here like to post.

Better that you post what your experience was with these diamonds in the "good old boy club" you speak of.

what did you learn?

When did you learn it

Real facts are welcomed and appreciated..
So many of you have come and gone, IBOfightback for one.

I started experiencing it 20 years ago with family and then 10 years ago with the diamonds yes, back when XS was going to make everyone rich.

One of the things that stands out the most is how the diamonds worked their a$$ off - So much for residual and retirement as I often point out. While there may be a short-lived residual, they know they must constantly replace to sustain.

While you've had some mild success, ever thought about stopping right now. How long do you think before people revert back to picking stuff up at the store?

The other thing is the definition of "scam" in MLM. Over on the vitamin thread you all point out the wonderful return policy etc.. I know that to be true. You see, "Amway" is legit in as far as they have products and a return policy, just like Costco. In Amway's case, the scam is that you will not likely make the money they dangle in front of you that keeps you buying products from "Amway" because you think you have a vested interest. Again, you and every IBO is not "Amway" just as we are not Costco. However, there are a select few that do make it but not by traditional methods - It's not going to happen!! Join the club or be the scamee.

I have to go, more later of course.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:25 PM
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While you've had some mild success, ever thought about stopping right now. How long do you think before people revert back to picking stuff up at the store?

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Nope...

Teams keep growing
I keep making money
Amway keeps impressing folks around the globe
My Downline keeps making money

Why would I quit...?

Doesnt make a lot of sense

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Old 03-27-2012, 02:40 PM
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Everyone works in MLM. New reps do the least, which is why they usually end up losing money. However, they still do a considerable amount of work. It's just that it's "less" compared to how much others put forth. Keep in mind that MLM is very labor intensive. A lot of phone calls, driving, and one on one meetings.

When it comes to experienced reps, they do the most work. They have the large downlines and they have to go to all the home meetings and seminars. Then you have the owners/founders/top producers. They also do a lot of work, because the scam has to be well oiled from the top down. As soon as they let up, their downline lets up, then their downline lets up, and before you know it everyone has given up and fallen victim to negativity (or as I call it, reality).

The myth of retiring in MLM is something that even the founders of many MLMs know isn't within reach. They might be able to retire based on the fact that they can live off their income, but they'll need to continue their invovlement in the MLM unless they want the whole thing to evaporate out from under them, which MLM has the tendency to do. I'm sure many-a-Diamonds can attest to that....
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:47 PM
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The myth of retiring in MLM is something that even the founders of many MLMs know isn't within reach. They might be able to retire based on the fact that they can live off their income, but they'll need to continue their invovlement in the MLM unless they want the whole thing to evaporate out from under them, which MLM has the tendency to do. I'm sure many-a-Diamonds can attest to that....
Awesome...since there are so many and I am sure they are all upset by this fact, should be a piece of cake to have them come here or you post links to their websites that state as much..

Cant wait to read these facts... unless you are simply spouting conjecture.... But you wouldnt do that

you surely would post something to back up your statements

High Level pins jumping from one MLM to another is definitely not the same... anyone can leave a job for what they believe is more $$...

So please.. enlighten us all and post whatever you have to back up your claims.... we are all waiting anxiously!!

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Old 03-27-2012, 02:50 PM
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Everyone works in MLM. New reps do the least, which is why they usually end up losing money. However, they still do a considerable amount of work. It's just that it's "less" compared to how much others put forth. Keep in mind that MLM is very labor intensive. A lot of phone calls, driving, and one on one meetings.

When it comes to experienced reps, they do the most work. They have the large downlines and they have to go to all the home meetings and seminars. Then you have the owners/founders/top producers. They also do a lot of work, because the scam has to be well oiled from the top down. As soon as they let up, their downline lets up, then their downline lets up, and before you know it everyone has given up and fallen victim to negativity (or as I call it, reality).

The myth of retiring in MLM is something that even the founders of many MLMs know isn't within reach. They might be able to retire based on the fact that they can live off their income, but they'll need to continue their invovlement in the MLM unless they want the whole thing to evaporate out from under them, which MLM has the tendency to do. I'm sure many-a-Diamonds can attest to that....

Considering you were only in MLM for a month or two you're either a guesser or a liar. Of course new distributors don't do a ''considerable amount of work''. The vast majority do very little, apart from maybe go on Facebook and spam people or phone their brother then give up. This isn't usually down to laziness but down to inexperience and plain not knowing what to do...so they give up.
Take a step back and look at yourself, less than 2 months in MLM and you're giving the impression that you know it all. Either that or you're plain lying to people.
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Let it go..... life is too short to keep holding grudges and crying about things in the past. Its very sad.
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Awesome...since there are so many and I am sure they are all upset by this fact, should be a piece of cake to have them come here or you post links to their websites that state as much..

Cant wait to read these facts... unless you are simply spouting conjecture.... But you wouldnt do that

you surely would post something to back up your statements

High Level pins jumping from one MLM to another is definitely not the same... anyone can leave a job for what they believe is more $$...

So please.. enlighten us all and post whatever you have to back up your claims.... we are all waiting anxiously!!
With all due respect here, there are plenty of facts but for some reason people don't pay attention or are swayed.

An honest question, do you think this http://amquix.info/amquix_whats_new.html is all made up? I've provided the link because I didn't want to take up too much room as there is plenty more info, LOL.

Sep. 5, 2011 Amway recollections after 10 years being out.
June 16, 2011 Amway: My Father's dream
Jan 8, 2011 Is Amway really environmentally conscious with unnecessary waste producing products like "Perfect Water"?
Jan 1, 2011 Not making a profit in your Amway business? Don't worry, renew your business and possibly win an Ipod!
Nov 12, 2010 Amway settles lawsuits with Woodward, Marks, Brady, MonaVie and team. Terms are confidential.
Nov 12, 2010 Amway settles Pokorny Class Action suit.
Aug 4, 2010 Gala sues Britt but Britt gets away with $5,184,000 arbitration award on Gala...all still being contested!
Jun 2, 2010 From a site visitor: 20+ mins of Brad Wolgamott berating his team for not bringing anyone to the meeting!
May 24, 2010 WWDB Diamond Dave Severn puts mansion on the market. ... just a cool $11 million. The great WWDB Diamond house sale!
May 24, 2010 The Main Street Bubble: How the FTC has Ignored and now Protects Business Opportunity Fraud on Main Street
April 21, 2010 Amway Arbitration once again slammed in court
April 2, 2010 Amway is back in Australia - MSM video
Mar 21, 2010 Non Amway: Paypal and Ebay support obvious fraud in thousands of transactions for counterfeit flash memory.
Mar 20, 2010 Forbes.com: "Company executives are eager to position Amway as more than a pyramid marketing company"
Mar 14, 2010 Ex Eagle Blog WWDB'er wakes up and sees the lies all around him. What your upline will not tell you.
Feb 08, 2010 Eric Scheibeler to move on. Merchants of Deception web site closing.
Feb 6, 2010 What your upline won't tell you Blog. The blog's author's story.
Feb 1, 2010 Updates to feedback pages. (Sorry I'm behind. I will catch up soon)
Dec. 8 2009 The Amway KGB
Nov 2, 2009 Class action suit filed against Amway Global in Canada
Oct 27, 2009 Judge tells Amway the obvious. Non distributors are not bound to arbitrate...duh!
Oct 26, 2009 Order your own copy of Eric Scheibeler's "Merchants of Decption" now in paperback.
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Oct 24, 2009 The great WWDB Diamond house sale! Carroll's, Danzik's and Foglio's all up for sale
Oct 4, 2009 WWDB River Rendezvous canceled? Puryear selling mansion on the river
Sept 27, 2009 Bankrupt WWDB Triple Diamonds raise just $291,000 in summer auction to help pay off $8.2 million to creditors
Amway Global offers $1,000,000 bailout loan to Duncan.
Sept 20, 2009 Four year Amway Global IBO write open letter to IBOs and prospects
Aug 17, 2009 David Steadson tops out at the 3% bonus level in 2008! Congratulations David!
Aug 9, 2009 Where's the Beef! Its been well over a year and the IBOAI has still not substantiated the bogus Perfect Water Claims!
July 12, 2009 Network 21 Emerald Sue and Jerry Smart leaves Amway Global... Spent a lot of money for a little return youtube video
July 12, 2009 BWW Amway Global Diamond Art Leazer leaves Amway Global and joins National Agents Alliance youtube video
July 12, 2009 30 Year Amway Global Diamond Doug Wead leaves Amway Global for Xango youtube video
June 26, 2009 Fomer Amway Global diamonds find the pasture not any greener in Univera
June 15, 2009 Amway Global gets former diamond and IBOA board member to his remove critical statements about Amway from the web.
May 30, 2009 WWDB Double Diamonds leave effortless residual income from Amway Global behind for brighter pastures.
May 10, 2009 Have you been Quixtar'd yet?
May 3, 2009 Executive Diamond Brian Herosian - Get rich in Amway Global with just 7-10 hours of work a week for 2-5 years.
April 26, 2009 Randy Haugen wants to remove his critical letter of the Amway Global business from the Internet. Original letter Archive.org Original letter
April 14, 2009 Just in Time for April 15.....The Amway Global Tax cheaters: $32,000 in losses on $650 in income. $8,000 tax refund!
April 13, 2009 12/2004: Home Prices are not the next bubble....The FED
April 10, 2009 The Hotel Amwayfornia!
Mar 12, 2009 Amway Global Triple Diamond Greg Duncan Bankrupt!
Mar 8, 2009 non Amway - Scott rants: The economic mess and how we got here.
Mar 8, 2009 Former Amway Global Diamonds go from Team in Focus, to Univera, now to Quivana......
Feb 17, 2009 The Obama Stimulus Package Song! Sing along!
Feb 7, 2009 Amway Global reports "challenging year" in North America
Jan 25, 2009 Landscapes of New Zealand: Scott's 28 day bike tour of N.Z. Slideshow Video 1, Video 2, Video 3, Video 4 (4 is my favorite)
Jan 24, 2009 David Brear talks about Amway Global UK's $50,000,000 losses over 8 years.
Jan 24, 2009 Featured site visitor letter
Jan 17, 2009 ABO or IBO? Why still the deception in North American?
Jan 10, 2009 Amway's number one occupational hazard
Nov 10, 2008 Amway Global yacht "Enterprise V" for sale.
Nov 2, 2008 Why I quit Amway Global...youtube video...
Oct 24, 2008 Rich DeVos: Wall Street should say they are sorry!
Oct 5, 2008 non Amway - Scott rants: GE selling Warren Buffett $3 billion in preferred stock.
Oct 5, 2008 Amway Global shut down in a province in India.
Sep 13, 2008 Blowing the dust off the 1979 Amway case. What was it all about? My comments on recent proponent interpretations.
Sep 9, 2008 Amway Canada announces layoff.
Aug 19, 2008 Triple Diamond Greg Duncan's house(s) in foreclosure!
Aug 15, 2008 How good is your group liability insurance coverage through the IBOBA? Distributors are refused coverage by Liberty Mutual.
Aug 12, 2008 Quixtar Distributors sue for Injunctive Relief from IBO Contract
Aug 10, 2008 Direct Selling Association blesses YTB Travel "pyramid scheme". YTB sued for $100 Million in class action suit
Aug 4, 2008 IBOfightback: CA Court rules Quixtar not a illegal Pyramid Scheme!
Aug 2, 2008 One time Amway Global distributor and author Robert Kiyosaki says Prepaid Legal has the best compensation plan.
Aug 1, 2008 Sam's sells MonaVie like product for less than 1/2 the cost of MonaVie.
July 25, 2008 A little history: Nutrilite before Amway Global. There were false claims and non-compete clauses before Amway too.
July 21, 2008 Amway UK publishes income data (The truthaboutamway that wasn't positive enough to post on ProAmway sites)
July 16, 2008 WWDB Diamonds competing with Quixtar in the Energy Drink market?
July 12, 2008 Feedback page updated by popular demand. Oct - Dec 2007 posted.
July 5, 2008 IBOfightback talks about copyrights. DS? David Steadson or Double Standard? David Steadson: Official Amway Zealot?
July 3, 2008 UK Regulators DBERR appeal court's decision not to shut down Amway UK.
Jun 21, 2008 Former IBOAI Board member still on the hook for P&G Satanism rumor
Jun 1, 2008 Fastest Man on the Planet is not using Amway's Nutrilite Vitamins?
Jun 1, 2008 Alticor and IBOAI falsely predicted fallout from the Morrision appeal.
May 23, 2008 The KKK operated on a “multi-level marketing principle, much like Amway.
May 22, 2008 Quixtar finally admits some Perfect Water Claims made by IBOs are false!
May 17, 2008 Amway's near death experience in the UK. Read the complete judgment that Amway chose not post.
May 12, 2008 United First Financial: MMA calculations too good to be true? How clueless some of their distributors are.
May 10, 2008 All quiet on the Amway front.
Apr 29, 2008 Now with Summary: Amway/Quixtar arbitration agreement grand slammed in US District Court in California
Apr 11, 2008 Perfect Water Website eliminates claims that the water "might" improve flexibility, strength and balance.
Apr 10, 2008 Bill Hawkins Chairmen of the IBOAI gets in on the IBO tipping band wagon too! Download your own copy. 6 meg
Apr 6, 2008 EDC Trevor Chatham tells his Amway story. His story behind the strange exit from the business.
Apr 3, 2008 Bruce Anderson's "Scam at the Zoo"
Mar 25, 2008 Amway/Quixtar's lack of due diligence embarrasses WWDB and tarnishes Amway Distributors' reputations.
Mar 24, 2008 The secrets to "IBO Tipping" are revealed in this funny video.
Mar 23, 2008 Quixtar's perfect water tip test debunked. Oxygenated Water: Unless you have gills it is an expensive burp!
Mar 22, 2008 Quixtar legal wants all "Perfect Water" videos taken of youtube.com now!
Mar 19, 2008 Q. Takes Monavie to court for false claims. Yet, check out Amway Distributor's claims for Amway's Perfect Water.
Mar 16, 2008 The fine techniques for successful "IBO tipping" Perfect water or Perfect snake oil?
Mar 16, 2008 Amway: Profile of hypocrisy. Youtube video.
Mar 10, 2008 Do the work in Quixtar, you might get paid, but only at Quixtar's discretion. Read their fine print.
Mar 8, 2008 5th Circuit court of Appeals sends Quixtar packing
Mar 6, 2008 Judge rules against Quixtar Non-compete agreement
Mar 2, 2008
Jan 31, 2004 Updated with video : Quixtar wants to keep tools income secret from prospects and IBOs. Andy Andrews reads Quixtar letter stating 98% of IBOs shouldn't know there is income from the tools business.
Feb 29, 2008 Insider caught lying? Well at the least caught spreading false information. "Insider's" identity confirmed
Feb 26, 2008 Rise and Fall of Amway in the UK and Republic of Ireland from Jerry Scriven's site.
Feb 24, 2008 U First Money Management Account MLM - Updated with MMA calculations in Excel spreadsheet.
Feb 12, 2008 "Nitro" case claims dismissed
Feb 9, 2008 Alticor Blog doing damage control and spinning stinging loss about arbitration agreement in Morrison case
Feb 7, 2008 Amway loses big time in Fifth circuit court of appeals: Amway Arbitration agreement "was illusory and unenforceable"
Jan 30, 2008 Is Quixtar's traffic dropping?
Jan 27, 2008 Quixtar's LOA cyber junkyard
Jan 25, 2008 Former Amway UK Sales Coordinator speaks out.
Jan 13, 2008 IBOA admits "clerical error"
Jan 6, 2008 Network 21 using the standard deceptions in South Africa Comment and opinion of Network 21
Jan 2, 2008 Help your upline to that next pin by having an XS-Chugging party! Beat the record of 5.93 seconds.
Dec 30, 2007 They came to hear Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee speak but got pitched for Amway!
Dec 24, 2007 Thought you earned those Quixtar bonuses? Quixtar can pay some bonuses at their sole discretion!
Dec 23, 2007 Class action suit to be filed in the UK against Amway and IBS.
Dec 1, 2007 Critics's critic "Insider" gets a knot in his underwear about a spoof of Diamond Dave Bradley.
Dec 1, 2007 Amway UK confirms prices were out of line. Some product prices lowered 70%
Nov 28, 2007 News from the UK. 75% of the UK bonuses earned by just 101 distributors. Top UK distributor earned £116K
Nov 26, 2007 Resigned Amway Quixtar Double Diamond Randy Haugen Speaks
Nov 25, 2007 Having trouble submitting your resignation to Amway / Quixtar?
Nov. 11, 2007 Diamond Chuck Goetschel speak out about Amway.
Nov 17, 2007 A look at the new UK plan
Nov 10, 2007 Government case with Amway UK to go to trial
Nov 4, 2007 On the cover of the Amagram! youtube.com video
Nov 3, 2007 Network 21's disappearing letter Amway's response Network 21's new letter Network 21 sued for copying book
Nov 1, 2007 "We cannot in good conscience continue to build or promote the Quixtar/Amway business" - Jerry Harteis resigns
Oct 27, 2007 Amway UK hoax If it worked in the UK, let's try it in the USA!
Oct 26, 2007 Diamonds Jerry Scriven explains how Amway dumped them after 25 years in the biz. Amway and rules' changes
Oct 25, 2007 New blog Quixtar Soviet Socialist Republic - new site in Australia. AmQuix's PR problems are growing.
Oct 21, 2007 Bush Authoritarianism: Blackwater+Amway=GOP pt. 3, pt. 2, pt 1
Oct 21, 2007 Old and new news from the UK
Oct 13, 2007 Quixtar can't handle criticism and satire...sues 30 youtube posters. All the new youtube.com videos about Amway/Quixtar
Oct 6, 2007 How "Green" is the Amway business when it comes to green house gases?
Oct 6, 2007 Britt and Co. in Court again
Oct 3, 2007 I lost my cents in Quixtar - a blog by a distributor on Quixtar's outrageous prices
Sep 29, 2007 Where was Scott was between May and June? Somewhere between Los Angeles and Boston. (....not Quixtar stuff)
Sep 23, 2007 Florence affidavit concerning IBOAI "secrets"
Sep 22, 2007 Scheibeler writes editor of Patriot News about reporter's errors.
Sep 16, 2007 iTEam USA drops prices on their system
Sep 2, 2007 Scheibler admitted lying? Did a reporter get set up?
Sep 1, 2007 Amway under world wide siege.
Aug 22, 2007 Quixtar Diamond and IBOAI Board member has an interesting article about the Quixtar/Amway business.
Aug 19, 2007 YOUR IBOAI wants to keep secrets from you.
Aug 18, 2007 Are you in Quixtar or Amway? Do you think the prices are too high to retail effectively? If so, let your voice be heard.
Aug 15, 2007 The single most important word in MLM - from the "Lawdawg" archives.
Aug 14, 2007 Multilevel Marketing for Dummies - A great "Lawdawg" article
Aug 13, 2007 An opinion of why Quixtar is NOT free Enterprise
Aug 12, 2007 Ousted Quixtar diamonds issue press release
Aug 11, 2007 Quixtar/Amway sacks seven Diamond distributors who claim Quixtar is a pyramid. Class Action suit filed.
Jul 29, 2007 Former IBO and site visitor says thanks.
Jul 29, 2007 Quixtar to dump name and go back to.... "Amway"
May 7, 2007 Amway bans LOA/LOS tools in the UK and Ireland. New tools must get Amway stamp of approval.
May 4, 2007 Ama-kid letter two - "the thing I thought would push us together (Quixtar) ended up tearing us apart"
Apr 8, 2007 Are you helping your downline.....to make a net profit? How about asking them what they will report on their taxes?
Mar 24, 2007 Amway/Quixtar Yin and Yang
Mar 20, 2007 Quixtar/Amway IBOA Executive Committee member and others face $19 million judgment in P&G "Satanism" rumor suit.
Mar 18, 2007 Scheibeler doesn't sign Brinks Hofer pre-authored confession, so Quixtar sues him for defamation in Federal court.
Mar. 4 2007 On Feb 7 2007 Eric Scheibeler issues clarification about source of death threats.
Feb 23, 2007 128 pounds of Quixtar tools again for sale on Ebay....just $1 per pound for secrets to make you a millionaire!
Feb 18, 2007 Potentially embarrassing videos of Quixtar training JAMS arbitrators not to be unsealed.
Feb 17, 2007 Quixtar Crown now doing Mannatech MLM. Don Storms Presidential level with Mannatech youtube video.
Feb 11, 2007 WWDB rewrites history and claims many of their Diamonds started their MLM careers in "Quixtar", instead of "Amway"
Feb 11, 2007 Alticor/Quixtar reports 2006 sales.....Quixtar to grow to $100 billion in sales in 207 years with current growth rate.
Jan 28, 2007 World Wide Dreambuilder's Diamond count down 16% in one year.
Jan 17, 2007 Quixtar, WWDB, and Britt hit with RICO class action lawsuit for pyramiding.
Jan 8, 2007 Celebrate an IBO's success. Luis Barrero makes $10,000/month in Quixtar just after 8 months in the biz!
Jan 5, 2007 Get better deals on your hotels at functions....Don't go through your upline as their group rates are more expensive!
Jan 4, 2007 Amway/Quixtar Diamonds aren't forever...youtube video showing many Amway/Quixtar exdiamonds
Dec 30, 2006 PA court rules the obvious. Quixtar arbitration agreement cannot be used to threaten former distributors' free speech rights.
Dec 29, 2006 Judge refuses to dismiss Anti-trust claims in Nitro vs. Alticor/Quixtar case. RICO claims dismissed.
Dec 24, 2006 Fun with Quixtar VP of marketing and Web critics Youtube.com video
Dec 17, 2006 IBOA does not want documents about the adoption of arbitration process unsealed. Who does the IBOA really represent?
Dec 10, 2006 The psychology of making decisions. Applications in Quixtar/Amway.
Dec 9, 2006 Consumer Reports Evaluates Laundry Detergent's - Quixtar's SA8 is most expensive
Nov 17, 2006 Vanessa's Amway/Quixtar Story Jane's Quixtar Amway/Quixtar Story
Nov 12, 2006 Amway wins Kichner award in Pennsylvania....not the Amway Corporation but .....Andy Amway!
Nov 4, 2006 The Land of Will - on Dateline NBC. Video on youtube.com The critics' parody of Quixtar's new image campaign.
Oct 29, 2006 You can't seem to even give away your old Amway/Quixtar BSM's on Ebay.
Oct 25, 2006 Slimming the Amway: Alticor, not Dr. Phil to pony up $10.5 Million in cash and products to settle class action suit
Oct 21, 2006 youtube.com video - Sell your Quixtar tools on Ebay. New song and lots of new tools for sale on Ebay!
Oct 14, 2006 Dick DeVos videos:Dickenstein Dick never fixed Amway I've been Amwayed What is this thing Amway, Wizard of ADA, Dick Run, Green Acre$ Stop DeVos Secret Amway Man, Stop DeVos #2
Sep 26, 2006 Quixtar distributors in China? The Chinese "Grey Market". Does this explain all the new Asian named Quixtar pins?
Sep 24, 2006 A Quixtar Line of Affiliation focuses on distributor profitability - What a concept!
Sep 22, 2006 EDC Trevor Chatham ordered by court not to say:
"The chances of a person making substantial income from an Amway business are very remote"
Sep 17, 2006 Interesting new excerpts from the Nitro, Netco, West Palm amended complaint "Dick Devos was steering the ship"!
Sep 17, 2006 Nitro, Netco, West Palm amended complaint hammers JAMS arbitration and Amway/Quixtar relationship
Sep 16, 2006 Quixtar's new Vendor Arbitration Agreement....only sign it if you are a moron and want to give up your rights.
Sep 6, 2006 Amended complaint in lawsuit of tool businesses of Ken Stewart and Brig Hart against Alticor/Quixtar/Amway
Sep 2, 2006 Can Quixtar's Lines of Affiliation market products and services to Quixtar distributor's?
Sep 2, 2006 Quixtar attorney, James Sobieraj, eliminated from first round of AmQuix trivia contest. (a satire)
Sept 1, 2006 A site visitor's "Diamond Story" - exorcising personal demons for once and for all.
Aug 26, 2006 Parents want their daughter back
Aug 14, 2006 Are Alticor and the DSA deceiving the public with misleading, incomplete and inaccurate definitions of a Pyramid Scheme?
Aug 6, 2006 Is your Tools system accredited? Quixtar starts accreditation program for lines of Affiliation Systems.
July 16, 2006 Quixtar loses in 8th Circuit Court of Appeals on arbitration issue. Tool business to take Quixtar to public court forum.
July 16, 2006 Quixtar Changing Strategy to Harass Critics with "Copyright Violations"?
July 15, 2006 The IBOA Board of Hypocrites - Do as I say but not as I do!
July 14, 2006 Are Quixtar attorneys experts in "creative reading"?
July 14, 2006 Old news becomes news again for Dick DeVos running for governor in Michigan. State court sides with Alticor.
July 1, 2006 Quixtar Distributors making false income claims Another reason for the new proposed FTC rules.
June 30, 2006 FTC proposes new rules to protect consumers from MLM deceptions - your input is needed!
June 29, 2006 Executive Diamond Angelo Nardone's website: "Mother Theresa has several thousand negative websites about her."
June 26, 2006 Quixtar files defamation suit against Amway/Quixtar critic and former Founder's Emerald Eric Scheibeler
June 16, 2006 Lines of Sponsorship Offer Personal Shopping Portals. Quixtar offers free ones as well.
June 16, 2006 Verizon - multi Billion dollar corporation axes MCI partnership with Quixtar
June 10, 2006 Quixtar discontinues Member option and Q points system.
June 5, 2006 Thisbiznow.com Website: Business, civic and government testimonials for the "business opportunity" or for Corporation?
June 4, 2006 IBO Selling businesses (prospecting) on Ebay! Buy your own Internet business for just $250 with 0% APR until 2007!
June 3, 2006 Crown Paul Miller's wedding to Leslie. The Founder's Council
May 28, 2006 Quixtar and Industry Leaders talk about consumer protections for tools (3.8 meg Video)
May 28, 2006 Did the 1996 Aerostar vs. Amway copyright suit settle for $700,000? Settlement costs divided among 23 parties?
May 27, 2006 Don't confuse the Nigerian E-mail scam with the American scam. A good report from Falseprofits.com
May 25, 2006 Oral arguments (19.3 meg)(5.3 meg) of Alticor's appeal of Judge Dorr's ruling. Why Quixtar arbitration is unfair.
May 17, 2006 Missouri Supreme Court Ruling Explained - Arbitration agreement issue
May 14, 2006 Alticor's/Quixtar's appeal of Judge Dorr's slamming of the Quixtar arbitration agreement.
May 13, 2006 Quixtar and Amway search trends on Google labs.
May 13, 2006 Quixtar approves stacking? At least so says a document from Scott & MJ Michael's group.
May 11, 2006 Bruce Anderson's site is back up. Diamond got cheated in Quixtar arbitration and is under fire again.
May 7 ,2006 Larry Winters breaks from Britt line of affiliation. Executive Diamond has $3.2 million in Federal Tax Liens
May 6, 2006 Amway distributors again in tax court. April 11, 2006 Tax Court Opinion. All the Amway/Quixtar tax court cases.
May 6, 2006 Note from a tax preparer - 1% make money, and hardly any make big money.
May 6, 2006 "I bought it on E-bay!" (4.2 meg) (Weird Al sings "I bought it on Ebay) 8 meg version
April 30, 2006 Tapes and Tools on E-bay! (3.5 meg) (to the "Amway" song)
April 30, 2006 Now on video! Birdie Yager discovers a new chapter to the Bible's book of Acts. This is a business meeting?
Apr 29, 2006 Updated: Do Mona-Vie Products compete with Quixtar's?
Apr 16, 2006 Amway top pin requirements from a 1981 Amway kit manual - Crown needed just 20 legs for one month at 7500PV.
Apr 11, 2006 Amway - The Best of Times and the Worst of Times. From a site visitor
Apr 10, 2006 Comparison Amway core product cost/profitability. Real profitability drops 8.6% from 1981 to 2006.
Apr 9, 2006 Buy a one leg 4000 PV Quixtar business on E-bay - current bid is $500 sold for $1,050 !
Apr 9, 2006 Tid Bits from the 1981 Amway Distributor Manual - Some interesting discoveries
Apr 1, 2006 Another line of Sponsorship Survey - Groups still spending more than they make.
Apr 1, 2006 Blast from the Past - Amagram article "prospect 102"
Mar 11, 2006 Line of Sponsorship Survey - Average active system IBO below Platinum loses $2,800 from the system alone.
Mar 10, 2006 Quixtar and JAMS go after Anderson for a second time
Feb 26, 2006 Middleton's and others get JAMwayed. JAMS neutrality pleaded before Federal court. Court rules arbitration.
Feb 14, 2006 Barnes and Noble complains about IBOs prospecting at their stores! No joke! A letter from the head of Quixtar.
Feb 8, 2006 Alticor settles Patent Infringement suit with TTI. TTI wins $26 million verdict from Mary Kay one month after Alticor settles..
Feb 6, 2006 Emerald's Joe and Lorinda Brassuer swindle downline and others for ca$650,000.
Jan 24, 2006 Quixtar has a new disclaimer and is posting income data five years old.
Jan 21, 2006 My suggestion for a better and more profitable Quixtar for distributors. An old page reposted.
Jan 15, 2006 Are you building your own Independent Quixtar business or one that Quixtar owns?
Jan 14, 2006 Even the Experts on the IBOAI board and the corporation can get the plan wrong. At least I admit my mistakes.
Jan 7, 2006 Does the IBOA have ties to Qrush's sources?
Jan 1, 2006 Quixtar distributors have new bragging rights......Quixtar is patented.
Jan 1, 2006 Quixtar debunks another rumor about P&G.
Dec 18, 2005 Quixtar's Tools Trouble - Grand Rapids Press (slightly modified article)
Dec 8, 2005 Do Quixtar's partners' reputations reflect on Quixtar's worthiness? Remember Enron and Worldcom?
Dec 4, 2005 Casey Combden Cruise Lines Cancels 2006 Cruise promotion.
Dec 1, 2005 Functions that teach distributors how to deceive prospects. It is truly a business of integrity.
Nov 29, 2005 Casey Combden - clairvoyant cold reader or crack pot?
Nov 18, 2005 Casey Combden goes for broke. Screws downline Emeralds and Diamonds out of tools profits.
Nov 18, 2005 Casey Combden broke? Casey has to remortgage house to pay for failed cruise promotion.
Nov 12, 2005 Quixtar works to squelch new P&G rumor.
Nov 5, 2005 Quixtar modifies mandatory arbitration rules to give distributors a choice in who will execute them.
Nov 5, 2005 Quixtar suffers 3.8% sales drop and 7.5% drop in bonuses. Commissions drop from 31.9% to 30.4% of sales.
Nov 5, 2005 Death of the Amway Salesman. Quixtar rewords 70% Rule to meaninglessness.
Oct 31, 2005 China bans Multi-Level plans like Amway's. Distributors won't earn commissions on those they recruit.
Oct 22, 2005 It is no wonder that most people lose money in Quixtar......There are no measurements or awards for profitability
Oct 14, 2005 Amway/Quixtar Bankrupts Morrison. JAMs arbitration awards Amway & Kingpins $6,452,913.10
Oct 2, 2005 Stewart and Hart file motion to declassify arbitration documents
Oct 2, 2005 Crown Kenny Stewart and Double Diamond Brig Hart sue Quixtar/Alticor for terminating their businesses.
Oct 2, 2005 DeVos prepares for shot at Presidency with www.devosforpresident.com http://www.governordickdevos.com
Sep 16, 2005 Amway/Quixtar Mandatory Arbitration Agreement shot down in Federal Court
Sep 13, 2005 Brent's tool depot - Buy-sell-trade your Amway/Quixtar LOS tools.
Sep 11, 2005 Quixtar pays the average distributor $82/month
Sep 3, 2005 Amway/Quixtar core line products sold 39% below IBO cost on E-bay.
July 30, 2005 If you can't do Quixtar, do XanGo!
July 3, 2005 Mandatory Arbitration Question goes to Missouri Supreme Court for Stewart and Schmitz cases
July 2, 2005 Alticor upset about "Quixtar-hating Internet zealots" and "Internet rumormongers"
July 2, 2005 For years, motivational speakers have celebrated a Yale study on why people succeed.
It's powerful! Compelling! Too bad it doesn't exist.
June 21, 2005 Texas Court allows discovery probe into possible partiality or corruption in Morrison suit arbitration award
June 19, 2005 Diamonds want Quixtar to lower prices. Will it happen?
May 27, 2005 The Cost of being a Quixtar Platinum
May 13, 2005 The MLM negative cash flow quadrant. What Kiyosaki didn't write about.
May 6, 2005 Quixtar line of sponsorship tools for sale on E-bay. Buy your "tools" for pennies on the dollar.
May 5, 2005 MinistryWatch.com says Gifts to Goad Not Tax-Deductible and Goads Not Talking.
April 23, 2005 Information from a tax preparer: Average Quixtar couples loses $10,450/year, singles lose $5,400/year
March 26, 2005 Quixtar Diamond "JAMWAYed". JAMS/Endisput Kangaroo court overturns real court judgment.
March 25, 2005 Did Hal Gooch's dead baboon cost Amway $13.5 million to cover up?
March 22, 2005 Amway Pays $9 million in copyright infringement suit - revisiting the case after 8 years
March 19, 2005 Crown Ambassador - Dexter Yager charged with sexual harassment
March 19, 2005 Waking up - A WWDBer's view to the business
March 11, 2005 Direct Selling Association loses in Utah with HB 269 trying to change pyramiding law.
Feb 20, 2005 Google spanks Quixtar for Google bombing campaign
Feb 15, 2005 How to get out of the system - by a site visitor
Feb 07, 2005 UK starts investigation of Amway/Amvio - Your feedback is needed.
Feb 05, 2005 Quixtar and their "Dateline" rebuttal page - Quixtar can't seem to get the facts straight
Feb 05, 2005 Quixtar's chief legal officer - says 70% of products purchased must be "sold" to qualify for a bonus... WOW!!
Jan 30, 2005 The DCI stacking plan revised - Thought the previous DCI plan was deceptive? Billy adds more exaggerations!
Jan 23, 2005 Amway's humorous attempt to cover up the Blakey Opinion.
Jan 23, 2005 Quixtar is not a pyramid! - An analysis of pyramid schemes and how the FTC addressed them
Jan 21, 2005 Quixtar is Amway: Follow the changing corporate names.
Jan 21, 2005 Dexter Yager is laughing all the way to the bank. - people paid to listen to this.
Jan 15, 2005 "Independent" Business Owner - An oxy moron?
Jan 15, 2005 Birdie Yager discovers a new chapter to the Bible's book of Acts.
Jan 8, 2005 Are Quixtar and Its motivational groups a Destructive Cult?
Jan 7, 2005 Amway Quixtar in the news.
Jan 5, 2005 Great Amway Quixtar Retirement Income Urban legend debunked!
Jan 5, 2005 Quixtar - Expanding Super Nova or collapsing black hole?
Dec 24, 2004 Letters from Ama-kids- A new feedback page for children of Amway/Quixtar distributors.
Dec 19, 2004 Amway in Ireland- Sunday World article
Dec 1, 2004 164 IBOs average just 2.5PV!- Further evidence that Quixtar offers consumers little value.
198 IBOs average just 7 PV!- Evidence that Quixtar offers consumers little value.
Nov 29, 2004 The DCI stacking plan- Billy's Florence's deceptive stacking plan.
Nov 28, 2004 What you have when you quit the biz.- revelations from a Kool-Aid drinker
Nov 24, 2004 The BSMAA "no refunds" policy- How the BSMAA assures no refunds.
Nov 20, 2004 Quixtar Purple Kool-Aid- Have you been drinking it?
Nov 15, 2004 6-4-2 versus 1-50,2-15- A comparison of two Quixtar models
Nov 13, 2004 Quixtar's mandatory arbitration- Is it really neutral?
Nov 9, 2004 The problems with stacking or excessive depth- How new IBOs lose their hot prospects
Nov 9, 2004 Analysis of a stacked group - 94 IBOs have just 2500 PV.
Oct 31, 2004 Merchants of Deception Book: in .html - An Amway Emerald's story
Oct 8, 2004 Quixtar's Rumor Mill - The most efficient in the world.
Sep 2, 2004 The Blog Wars - Quixtar fights back flooding the web with Blogs (Web Logs).
Aug 22, 2004 Classic Amway sounds - recordings from the early days in Amway.
Aug 7, 2004 Fake Quixtar Diamond Harriet Lyons - arrested once again for fraud.
July 3, 2004 Bill Britt and Phyliss Frankel - Is this woman the reason for Britt's separation with Peggy?
July 3, 2004 Dean Kosage - As a founders Emerald and what WWDB wanted to keep quiet.
June 18, 2004 Video from Dateline Expose' on Quixtar 15 meg .wmv format
June 18, 2004 Audio from Dateline Expose' on Quixtar 2.8 meg .mp3 format
June 12, 2004 Channel 6 Charlotte, NC questions Congress woman Sue Myrick about Amway .mp3 format
June 8, 2004 Crown Bill Britt Separated from Peggy - Britt loses $20 million in fraudulent investment schemes
May 22, 2004 Dateline NBC participants - rebuttal Quixtar's response to the show.
May 21, 2004 Znetix - $90 million Stock fraud rips through Quixtar groups.
May 21, 2004 Highlights from Rich DeVos that Dateline NBC did not have time to show.
May 8, 2004 IBO Bonus data for 2003 - Platinum income drops 39% in two years to $15,240 on average
May 1, 2004 1983 Amway Postma Memo- Amway Executive Ed Postma opines that the systems are illegal
May 1, 2004 WWDB Diamonds let mortgage fall into default, lose dream house in bank foreclosure
Apr 16, 2004 Eric Scheibeler - Amway breaks payment covenant and forces Emerald into Bankruptcy
Feb 26, 2004 "Rich DeVos said it", by Bo Short
Feb 21, 2004 Bo Short's page on "untrustworthy mentors"
Feb 12, 2004 RICO Expert Robert Blakey - Compares Amway methods to organized crime syndicates
Feb 7, 2004 Senator Sue Myrick pays back Amway/Quixtar with favorable legislation
Jan 21, 2004 History of the Amway/Quixtar lawsuits - A summary page of the important cases
Nov, 23, 2003 Analysis of an Open Meeting- IBOs exaggerate the income potential
Nov, 23, 2003 Q&A about Illegal Pyramid Schemes - Q&A about Amway/Quixtar's legal history
Nov, 9, 2003 National Do-Not-Call Registry - The new rules apply to IBOs.
Oct, 26, 2003 Quixtar Arbitration Agreement - "Fundamentally Unfair and Unconscionable"
Sep, 2003 Crown Bill Britt - Stung for $5 million in Ponzi scheme.
Sept. 4, 2003 The Shaws - Executive Diamond couple bilks $10 million from victims in loan scheme
Aug 31, 2003 Trevor Jones - Emerald couple run Ponzi scheme taking $2 million from IBOs and others.
Aug 7, 2003 Quixtar sued - Crown, Double Diamond, Diamond IBOs sue Quixtar over tools conspiracy
Aug 1, 2003 The Diamonds who weren't.... - Hal & Harriet Lyons fake their way to Diamond Club 2002!
Quixtar announces NBC Dateline story - NBC's Letter to Quixtar
July 20, 2003 Quixtar reports - 2001 Q12 gross income drops 36% in 6 years
July 2, 2003 Crown Ambassador Dexter Yager Pays $125,000 in Copyright Infringement suit.
June 24, 2003 Amway Attorneys- meet Yager Diamonds to discuss business abuses.....20 years ago
June 24, 2003 1987 WWDB Guideline for Diamonds - How WWDB split up the function ticket revenue
June 20, 2003 20 Years of IBO deceptions
June 15, 2003 The Amway/Quixtar IBO Hall of Shame
June 15, 2003 Emerald Dan Strader - sentenced to 45 years in prison.
April 21, 2003 Iraqi Information Minister - lands job with Amway (parody)
April, 2003 Network 21 sued - for selling unauthorized copies of copyrighted book.
Feb 18, 2003 Big Pin Bonus Calculator - Calculate big pin bonuses for yourself!
Feb 11, 2003 Resigned Quixtar Diamond Bo Short's - frank discussion about the biz.
Feb, 04, 2003

Caution by Ebay $310,000 in bogus German Auctions (not Amway related)
Feb, 2003

California Diamond - fleeces $12 million in 1990 investment scam
Jan, 2003

Crown Don Storms - Suspended for participation in $17 Million Ponzi scheme on downline.
Jan, 2003

Review of Lines of Sponsorship
Nov, 2002

Who moved their cheese? A List of Diamonds and Emeralds no longer in the business
Nov, 2002

Who are not still together? Those marriages not saved by the business
Nov, 2002

Diamond and Emerald Pin Winners (Not updated any more)
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