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Old 02-19-2012, 07:49 AM
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booking scam

The text of this scam is below.
their email is:
davidonholiday2012@gmail.com

Hello

Thanks a lot for your mail and your understanding,I'm very happy to
read from you back as regard the property availability from 21 April
2012 till 28 April 2012 ,I am also okay with the asking price 330€

Concerning the payment arrangement,I am assuring you that their
won't be any problem because our company's business associate in
europe would be pay for our holiday and i had already spoke with their
company about the payment arrangement.

The payment that would be sent to you would be in excess,BTA (Basic
Travelers Allowance) fee will be included in the rental fee basic on
trust. As soon as you get the Spanish Check or Travelers Check
deposited into your bank for clearance.

As soon as you have cashed the Spanish check or Euro travelers
check you would deduct the rental fee and send the remaining balance
to the traveling agent,which would be for our flight expenses,BTA and
some other necessary paperwork's. Details and Instruction on how to
send the remaining balance to the traveling agent would be forward to
you as soon as you received the payment

Here is my information below :
Mrs & Mr David
Address: 17 - 4TH Street, NE
Washington, DC 20002
United States
Fax Number :+1206-338-5714
Home Number : +1202-459-6722
Adults : 2

Pls i want you to do this for me in good faith. if you comply,do not
hesitate to provide me with these information.

Full Name on Spanish Check:
Full Address,
City :
Zip Code:
State :
Country :
Telephone Number :

I would be very glad if you can be of a helping hand and hope to read
back from you soonest, I will forward the copy of my passport to you
as well .

Best Regards.
Mrs & Mr David
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:24 AM
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Re: booking scam

100% scam, you are correct.

There is no renter.

There is only a scammer trying to steal your hard-earned money with a fake check and a fake story of being out of town/state/country and moving into your area.

The next email will be from another of the scammer's fake names and free email addresses pretending to be the "secretary/assistant/accountant" and will demand you cash a large fake check sent on a stolen UPS/FedEx billing account number and send the money via Western Union or moneygram back to the scammer posing as the "traveling agent". When your bank realizes the check is fake and it bounces, you get the real life job of paying back the bank for the bounced check fees and all the bank's money you sent to an overseas criminal.

Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.

If that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great places to rent, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

You could post up the email address that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don't bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn't worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

If you google "fake apartment renter", "fraud Western Union house rent scam" or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near-victims of this type of scam.
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:13 AM
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Re: booking scam

Thank you so much for this post, because I just got the same e-mail as the first post and I did not trust it. As I got a similar e-mail from another man. I won't reply to this e-mail at all.

Thanks again!

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Old 04-25-2012, 09:30 AM
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Re: booking scam

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Thank you so much for this post, because I just got the same e-mail as the first post and I did not trust it. As I got a similar e-mail from another man. I won't reply to this e-mail at all.

Thanks again!
I've also had Mr Francis or Mrs & Mr Francis or Mr & Mrs David contacting me. They have even sent me a scan of a passport which shows a Mr David Francis Martin born in 1943.

They have then sent me a bankers cheque drawn on Santander bank in Puerto Banus, Costa Del Sol, Spain. Cheque looks kosher and is for €3,900.

By chance I am in Puerto Banus next week so i will visit the bank and see what they say.

Mr David has now sent me these emails:

-----Original Message-----
From: David Francis [mailto:dr.david1144@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 April 2012 11:56
To: Kiddle,SC,Stan,ANG2 R
Subject: Thanks for the payment Acknowledgement (Get back to me

Hello Stan,

Thanks for the acknowledgment of the payment.I appreciate your honesty, trust, transparency and understanding so far. Now that you've received payment, You are to proceed with the clearance of the Cheque by taking it to your bank for verification and get back to me with the exact date your bank tells you the money will clears into your account. You are to deduct the bank charges for the cleareance of the Cheque.

I thought I have explained in my previous message that the payment you will receive would be in excess fund including our flight and BTA (Basic Travel Allowance) plus the rental fees. Details and lnstruction on how to transfer the remaining balance to the Traveling agent.

I hope to read back from you with the exact date the money will arrive in your account so that I can give you details and instructions on how to send the balance to the traveling agent and don't forget to get back to me with the rental contract for the booking .

Sincerely,
Mrs & Mr Francis


-----Original Message-----
From: David Francis [mailto:dr.david1144@gmail.com]
Sent: 25 April 2012 07:57
To: Kiddle,SC,Stan,ANG2 R
Subject: Re:

Good Morning ,

Am waiting to hear from you with exact date that your bank say the check will be cleared .

Thanks
Mrs & Mr Francis


I guess they wouldn't expect me to be in a position to visit the bank and I'm epxecting to be told it's a fake/stolen or otherwise bogus cheque. Not sure what i will do if I walk out with €3,900 in cash

Incidently, this is the early email where I was talking to Mme Francis, in Washington, with a phone number that doesn't ring.

________________________________________
>>>>>> From: David Francis [dr.david1144@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: 01 April 2012 15:11
>>>>>> To: Kiddle,SC,Stan,ANG2 R
>>>>>> Subject: Booking and Information Needed..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your mail and your understanding,I'm very
>>>>>> happy to read from you back as regard the property availability
>>>>>> from Saturday 1 Sept to Saturday 8 Sept,I am also okay with the
>>>>>> asking price 350€
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Concerning the payment arrangement,I am assuring you that
>>>>>> their won't be any problem because our company's business
>>>>>> associate in europe would be pay for our holiday and i had
>>>>>> already spoke with their company about the payment arrangement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The payment that would be sent to you would be in excess,BTA
>>>>>> (Basic Travelers Allowance) fee will be included in the rental
>>>>>> fee basic on trust. As soon as you get the Spain Check deposited
>>>>>> into your bank for clearance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As soon as you have cashed the Spain check you would deduct
>>>>>> the rental fee and send the remaining balance to the traveling
>>>>>> agent,which would be for our flight expenses,BTA and some other
>>>>>> necessary paperwork's. Details and Instruction on how to send the
>>>>>> remaining balance to the traveling agent would be forward to you
>>>>>> as soon as you received the payment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is my information below :
>>>>>> Mme M Francis
>>>>>> Address: 17 - 4TH Street, NE
>>>>>> Washington, DC 20002
>>>>>> United States
>>>>>> Fax Number :+1206-338-5714
>>>>>> Home Number : +1202-459-6722
>>>>>> Adults : 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pls i want you to do this for me in good faith. if you comply,do
>>>>>> not hesitate to provide me with these information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Full Name on Spain Check :
>>>>>> Full Address,
>>>>>> City :
>>>>>> Zip Code:
>>>>>> State :
>>>>>> Country :
>>>>>> Telephone Number :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be very glad if you can be of a helping hand and hope to
>>>>>> read back from you soonest, I will forward the copy of my
>>>>>> passport to you as well .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards.
>>>>>> francis
>>>>>> Sent via Verizon Wireless
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Old 04-25-2012, 02:13 PM
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Re: booking scam

no, don't try to cash the check. the bank doesn't know you and may have you arrested, on the spot.

it is an obvious scam. nobody sends their money to some stranger then asks to have it sent back, just "because we always trust strangers with our cash."

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Old 05-03-2012, 10:36 AM
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Re: booking scam

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no, don't try to cash the check. the bank doesn't know you and may have you arrested, on the spot.

it is an obvious scam. nobody sends their money to some stranger then asks to have it sent back, just "because we always trust strangers with our cash."
Well I did drop into the Santander branch at Puerto Banus where supposedly the cheque was issued from. The manager had clearly seen them before and was concerned that I may have sent some money. I explained that I knew it to be fake in some way but, as I was passing, was curious. The manager took a photocopy of it and that was that. No more contact from 'Dr Francis' so far.
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