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Usana
Has anyone been hooked into this? Typical pyramid but with a product they claim can almost heal damaged cells by regeneration basically. Angela
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05-31-2004, 10:04 AM
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I went to Usana's website and they see like a typical health product company that basically sells "hope". Cell regeneration and an opportunity to make money selling it to your friends. Sweet! Where do I sign up?! HAHAHA.
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07-27-2004, 02:38 AM
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seems pretty legit to me, i did some research and everything seems normal. i kno people gettin paid through it and parents who say they feel better taking it, so iuno. through wat i kno, i'd say usana isnt a scam.
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07-27-2004, 02:48 AM
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my brother does usana, it's pretty cool. i'd do it but i dont hav time. here are some interesting facts about usana. i think everybody should do it
#1 MLM insider for 6 years in a row
#9 Fastest growing company in the world
#1 Fastest health and wellness company
Best Nutritional supplement in the "Comparative Guide"
Best of State award for best nutritional in Utah
Dr. Wentz (founder) earned Ernst and Young entrepreneur of the year award
Networth of 200 million to 270 million in 6 weeks
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07-27-2004, 04:30 AM
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I finally get to speak my mind about this company,
USANA IS FRAUD
I know almost everything about this company, I payed the 200 some dollars to get in and went through the merchant selling and it's the basic pyramid scam. Please dont feed your relatives and yourselves their crap "pharmaceutical" products. This company does not mainly make its money from start-up costs, they just make you sell their "awarded A++" vitamans and protein powder, please do not fool yourselves.
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07-27-2004, 05:00 AM
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"if it is to be, then its up to me"
sorry to tell you this but the company works. you don't work. looking at ur post and ur attitude, you weren't the right person to do mlm.
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07-27-2004, 03:55 PM
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u got scammed by me beeetch
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07-27-2004, 09:25 PM
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LOL whoever had the time to make a name with my AIM sn is a loser lol
i obviously did not know any of those things
oh man thats some funny stuff, HAHAHAHAH dude u need a life man.
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07-27-2004, 09:54 PM
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Dude i just realized hahaahhahah
since this website was on my buddy profile
1) the person who made it knows my AIM SN which means its someone from my buddy list
2) the person knows i have a brother
3) so by default...its one of the you - clan members LOL GJ cus ur the only ones in this business.
only u guys would get mad to see a website like this on my info
ill join usana...if someone follows me around with a gun to my head.
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sorry to tell you this but the company works. you don't work. looking at ur post and ur attitude, you weren't the right person to do mlm.
^LOL wthell stop talking like that man
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08-06-2004, 08:57 PM
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Re: Usana
USANA is not a pyramid and not a scam. Looks like many of you here are misinformed.
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08-19-2004, 05:15 AM
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I unfortunately have to say USANA is no scam. A close friend of mine has been selling it for years(ie. before he had internet access). While I dont doubt that the actual product is rubbish, it is certainly a real company. This friend has been to marketing conferences and other events. I see the products in his house and they look like little coloured pills that are just sand or something to me, but hey, who knows.
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08-19-2004, 09:35 PM
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I want to caution people when it comes to the pay plan with USANA I bought a distributorship and paid considerable amt of money for my business center. The minute I fell on hard times and couldnt afford the $100 per monthy min autoship, they took away the commissions that were owed to me. They refuse to work with me to this day , I didnt make a DIME with them because of that.
I used the products and loved them, I have no beef with the quality of the products it is the attitude they take as a BIG business and forget the little guy when one of their own is suffering that I highly object to. Had they allowed me to get the commissions I could have resumes my autoship now I have a distributorship that is sitting collecting duest and 5 people under me producing that I have no contact with nor see any commissions from.
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08-25-2004, 11:00 AM
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I've been a member of Usana for ages. I got in because of the products first and the commissions are just incidental. But it is a great company.
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08-25-2004, 06:53 PM
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MLM is not always Pyramid. That's not fair. All businesses have a heirarchy.
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08-28-2004, 12:57 PM
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i still think its one of the best companies around.
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08-29-2004, 11:57 AM
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Re: Usana
Still waiting for a response here.
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09-01-2004, 01:46 AM
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be good today
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09-02-2004, 05:04 PM
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Re: Usana
Everyone, please be on your best behavior in this board and do not bad mouth.
Thank you.
Scam.com
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09-03-2004, 03:11 AM
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To all:
I would like to see everyone cleaning up their act here.
No more bad talking people or businesses here.
Scam.com
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10-01-2004, 11:43 PM
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Yay!
I am going to relive this thread again to stand up for my favourite company! Firstly, to all of you that think USANA is a scam, oh my GOD, you honestly need some help.
USANA's distribution system is by far one of the best systems used in the world. Their pay plan will actually act as a 'filter out system' for anyone with the mind to just make money quick and not bother about the products and the company.
I have close relatives and friends here in Melbourne, Australia that are doing really well in the business. And why do they do well? Because of one common ground they all have... sincerity and not greed. (I recommend that you should read one of my relative's bio on USANA at http://www.netmarkpro.com/dynawealth/bio.html to see her story on USANA).
I am in fact planning for an Internet strategy to develop the USANA business online but with the careful consideration that it doesn't get seen as a 'get rich quick and big' type business although some of the stories I compiled might show associates that earn 5 digit earnings per week.
Furthermore, I have to acknowledge the fact that you DO NEED to be in the position to have money to actually become an active distributor. But I have heard of some cases where people just start with a mere $500 (The joining fee, The first 150 points order and First month's Autoship) and made it big after that. These people set out a plan and really put their heart and soul in working it so that their earnings can cover the following months Autoships (which is the focul foundation that keeps USANA businesses alive).
I have so much to talk about USANA, but anyway for now my message to those that have burnt out in USANA is this... Please find the right mind to speak to the person who got you involved in the business and discuss your views with him/her to open your dynamics to USANA's true spirit. If that person who brought you in was purely in it for the money than it is much RECOMMENDED that you find someone in your upline who can really show you the true colours of USANA which you have probably not seen yet. If you don't know where to go to find the right sources, you can ask me for some good and reliable sources to grow your USANA business online if your are considering about it.
Regards,
matt
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10-02-2004, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by l0r3nphung
my brother does usana, it's pretty cool. i'd do it but i dont hav time. here are some interesting facts about usana. i think everybody should do it
#1 MLM insider for 6 years in a row
#9 Fastest growing company in the world
#1 Fastest health and wellness company????????
Best Nutritional supplement in the "Comparative Guide"
Best of State award for best nutritional in Utah
Dr. Wentz (founder) earned Ernst and Young entrepreneur of the year award
Networth of 200 million to 270 million in 6 weeks
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I checked around...Forbes, USA Today and Inc. Magazine don't know anything about that scam....er, vitamin company!
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10-02-2004, 05:01 PM
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Top 25...where are they on the list, again?
Liar.
Go back to Vietnam.
List of the Fortune 500
NEW YORK (AP) — The Fortune 500 ranking of the nation's largest companies compiled by Fortune magazine on the basis of 2003 revenue. Each entry includes rank, name of company, headquarters, last year's rank and 2003 revenue in billions of dollars.
1. Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Bentonville, Ark., 1, $258.681
2. Exxon Mobil Corp., Irving, Texas, 3, $213.199
3. General Motors Corp., Detroit, 2, $195.645
4. Ford Motor Co., Dearborn, Mich., 4, $164.496
5. General Electric Co., Fairfield, Conn., 5, $134.187
6. ChevronTexaco Corp., San Ramon, Calif., 7, $112.937
7. ConocoPhillips, Houston, 12, $99.468
8. Citigroup Inc., New York, 6, $94.713
9. International Business Machines Corp., Armonk, N.Y., 8, $89.131
10. American International Group, Inc., New York, 9, $81.300
11. Hewlett-Packard Co., Palo Alto, Calif., 14, $73.061
12. Verizon Communications Inc., New York, 10, $67.752
13. The Home Depot Inc., Atlanta, 13, $64.816
14. Berkshire Hathaway Inc., Omaha, 28, $63.859
15. Altria Group Inc., New York, 11, $60.704
16. McKesson Corp., San Francisco, 20, $57.129
17. Cardinal Health Inc., Dublin, Ohio, 19, $56.830
18. State Farm Insurance Cos., Bloomington, Ill., 21, $56.065
19. The Kroger Co., Cincinnati, 18, $53.791
20. Fannie Mae, Washington, D.C., 16, $53.767
21. The Boeing Co., Chicago, 15, $50.485
22. AmerisourceBergen Corp., Chesterbrook, Pa., 24, $49.657
23. Target Corp., Minneapolis, 25, $48.163
24. Bank of America Corp., Charlotte, N.C., 23, $48.065
25. Pfizer Inc., New York, 37, $45.950
Oh, yeah, this is from Ernst and Young's website. Odd, no "Wentz" on there.
Past National Entrepreneur Of The Year award winners have included:
Jonathan C. Coon, 1-800-CONTACTS
Jim McCann, 1-800-Flowers.com
Jeff Bezos, Amazon.com
Steve Case, of America Online
Abe J. Gustin, Jr., Applebee's International Inc.
Richard Schulze, Best Buy Co., Inc.
Margot Fraser, Birkenstock
Michael Dell, Dell Computer
Pierre Omidya, eBay, Inc.
Jack and Andy Taylor, Enterprise-Rent-A-Car
Scott Kriens, Juniper Networks
Robert Basham, Tim Gannon, and Chris Sullivan, Outback Steakhouse
Herb Kelleher, Southwest Airlines
Howard Schultz, Starbucks Corp.
Scott McNeeley, Sun Microsystems
Tim Koogle, Jerry Yang, and David Filo, Yahoo!
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10-02-2004, 05:08 PM
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Oh, yeah, DR. Wentz is a PhD, NOT an MD.
No need to kill your health with this bozo.
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10-02-2004, 05:55 PM
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Oh, yeah, DR. Wentz is a PhD, NOT an MD.
No need to kill your health with this bozo.
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The truth about what you mentioned above is the total opposite if you understand more about the essence of nutritional value for yourself.
Dr. Wentz obtained his Ph.D. in microbiology and immunology from the University of Utah. USANA was an outgrowth of Dr. Wentz' research on human cell cultures performed at Gull Laboratories in Salt Lake City, UT.
At Gull, Dr. Wentz developed more than 30 different assays for infectious diseases, including many FDA and industry firsts. The first product to establish worldwide prominence was his assay for the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV).
Introduced in 1977, it was the first commercial assay for EBV to receive FDA clearance. Dr. Wentz' commitment to worldwide health has progressed from his work at Gull to the quickly growing USANA Health Sciences to the new Sanoviv Health Retreat, a wellness and healing center in Baja, Mexico.
Now, in regards to my earlier statement on MDs, here is one source you can read: http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm
A great book to read seperate to the above source is entitled 'What Your Doctor Doesn't Know About Nutritional Medicine May Be Killing You' by Dr. Ray D. Strand. You can purchase this from Amazon or Barnes and Noble if you want to read more about this.
Regards,
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10-03-2004, 11:07 PM
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The truth about what you mentioned above is the total opposite if you understand more about the essence of nutritional value for yourself.
Dr. Wentz obtained his Ph.D. in microbiology and immunology from the University of Utah. USANA was an outgrowth of Dr. Wentz' research on human cell cultures performed at Gull Laboratories in Salt Lake City, UT.
At Gull, Dr. Wentz developed more than 30 different assays for infectious diseases, including many FDA and industry firsts. The first product to establish worldwide prominence was his assay for the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV).
Introduced in 1977, it was the first commercial assay for EBV to receive FDA clearance. Dr. Wentz' commitment to worldwide health has progressed from his work at Gull to the quickly growing USANA Health Sciences to the new Sanoviv Health Retreat, a wellness and healing center in Baja, Mexico.
Now, in regards to my earlier statement on MDs, here is one source you can read: http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm
A great book to read seperate to the above source is entitled 'What Your Doctor Doesn't Know About Nutritional Medicine May Be Killing You' by Dr. Ray D. Strand. You can purchase this from Amazon or Barnes and Noble if you want to read more about this.
Regards,
matt
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You addressed....nothing.
go 'way.
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10-11-2004, 09:49 PM
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USANA is a legitimate business.
Yes, it is multi-level, but that does not mean PYRAMID.
Many products for many years have been sold through independent representatives with some type of multi-level commission plan.
Mary Kay, Avon, tons of nutritional products companies like Usana, etc.
It's just smart business. Saves the company TONS of money on advertising and the cost of getting a product into stores (that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, people).
Buying Usana's products is no different than walking into GNC or any health food or vitamin store and buying products off the shelf. Maybe they work. Maybe they don't. Many people believe in them.
Network Marketing of all kinds takes work. Because the income potential is high, many people assume they can just join and get rich quickly without any effort. Those are the people who quit and start screaming SCAM.
The truth is, you can make money with any of these companies if you:
a) sell the products
b) sponsor new members who also do a and b.
A representative's inability to successfully sell the products or the opportunity is not the company's fault. I just wish more reps would help the people they sponsor be successful, like we do, rather than just sign up hundreds by telling them it's easy, and pocket the commissions.
If you are in Usana or any other MLM/Networking company, please do this:
1) figure out the minimum number of people you need to sponsor and have duplicate to create the passive income you want to earn. (ie. In my business that is 6 people who sponsor 6)
2) once you find your 6 people, stop sponsoring and teach your 6 people to sponsor until they each have 6 people and are training those people.
If people learned the key to passive income is to focus on creating duplication rather than being the best recruiter in the business, more people would be successful and fewer people would be disappointed.
Good luck everyone.
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10-12-2004, 11:11 PM
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Hi,
I almost forgot about this thread here until I just got a reminder in my email. Anywho... let's continue...
In my defence of what scambuster had to say about me, I would like to point out that my reply in the message dated 10-03-2004 08:55 AM, I believe, has significant facts opposing your (scambuster) reply dated 10-03-2004 08:08 AM that read 'Oh, yeah, DR. Wentz is a PhD, NOT an MD. No need to kill your health with this bozo.'
To add to that, Do you know that scientists are the ones that come out with the discoveries/solutions for a particular problem in medicine and the doctors (MDs) are the ones that practice it? In this case, Dr. Myron Wentz manufactures his discovery into an end product and as a result of this the Drs (MDs) role for the end solution is not needed. My point is that because Dr Myron Wentz is the discoverer of this product due to his successful experience in the field of nurturing cells (a 30+ year experience), you will be better of trusting him with your health via the USANA nutriotinal system then a Dr which focuses on giving a patient a direct solution to help with the health problem and usually the solutions provided by Drs (MDs) are only short term.
Let me ask you... Have you ever got sick before and gone to a DR (MD) for help with the end outcome of him/her give you some antibiotics to help your current problem but then at the end of the consultation they add comments such as 'your not eating right', 'your diet is inbalance', etc and even their recommended solution to this is that 'you should take nutritional supplements'? I'm sure all of us have experienced this before and if not, I recommend you change your personal DR to one which does believe in a well balanced nutritional system as this is the core of our being.
Anyhow, thanks financialfreedomfighter for your post. You are spot on with USANA. It's always good to know a fellow company associate conducting themselves the way it should be as part of the vision of our founder.
Cheers all...
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Having had personal experience with USANA I have to warn potential "clients" of the problems trying to get off their email list. Multiple emails and phone calls later we have had assurances that it has been done, but their unwelcome emails keep coming. On that basis they are a SCAM or a FRAUD. :mad:
Incidentally their product did not do what was claimed, but it did hit the wallet.
Possibly it was originally based around helpful products and ethics, but they appear to have lost both.
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11-30-2004, 09:42 PM
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Usana is a quality company. In addition to people who are mad at MLM, because it didn't pan out for them, are failed car salesman, insurance salesman, lawyers, accountants, doctors, and online business guru's. Sometimes it takes failure before someone realizes their true calling.
Oh well....no mind changing event is going to happen on this board. Take care doubters and good luck. Pick up a copy of Rich Dad Poor Dad and read it.
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Ladies and gentlemen! This is something that you can reflect on. Someone sent it to me and I think it is really good...
Take a look at an apple tree.
There might be five hundred apples on the tree, but each apple has just ten seeds
That's a lot of seeds!
We might ask, "Why would you need so many seeds to grow just a few more apple trees?"
Nature has something to teach us here.
It's telling us: "Not all seeds grow. In life, most seeds never grow. So if you really want to make something happen, you had better try more than once."
This might mean:
>You'll attend twenty interviews to get one job.
>You'll interview forty people to find one good employee.
>You'll talk to fifty people to sell one house, one car, one vacuum
>cleaner, one insurance policy, or a business idea.
>And you might meet a hundred acquaintances just to find one special friend.
When we understand the "Law of the Seed", we don't get so disappointed.
We stop feeling like victims.
We learn how to deal with things that happen to us.
Laws of nature are not things to take personally. We just need to understand them - and work with them.
IN A NUTSHELL
Successful people fail more often. But they plant more seeds.
When Things Are Beyond your control, here's something that you must NOT DO so as to avoid misery in your life:
>You must not decide how you think the world SHOULD be.
>You must not make rules for how everyone SHOULD behave.
>Then, when the world doesn't obey your rules, you get angry!
>That's what miserable people do!
On the other hand, let's say you expect that:
>Friends SHOULD return favours.
>People SHOULD appreciate you.
>Planes SHOULD arrive on time.
>Everyone SHOULD be honest.
>Your husband or best friend SHOULD remember your birthday.
These expectations may sound reasonable. But often, these things won't happen!
So you end up frustrated and disappointed.
There's a better strategy. Demand less, and instead, have preferences!
For things that are beyond your control, tell yourself:
"I WOULD PREFER "A", BUT IF "B" HAPPENS, IT'S OK TOO!"
This is really a change in mindset. It is a shift in attitude, and it gives you more peace of mind ...
You prefer that people are polite ... but when they are rude, it doesn't ruin your day. You prefer sunshine ... but if it rains, it is ok too!
To become happier, we either need to
a) Change the world, or
b) Change our thinking
It is easier to change our Thinking!
IN A NUTSHELL
It is not the problem that is the issue, but rather it is your attitude attending to the problem that is the problem.
It's not what happens to you that determine your happiness.
It's how you think about what happens to you!
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Top 25...where are they on the list, again?
Liar.
Go back to Vietnam.
List of the Fortune 500
NEW YORK (AP) — The Fortune 500 ranking of the nation's largest companies compiled by Fortune magazine on the basis of 2003 revenue. Each entry includes rank, name of company, headquarters, last year's rank and 2003 revenue in billions of dollars.
1. Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Bentonville, Ark., 1, $258.681
2. Exxon Mobil Corp., Irving, Texas, 3, $213.199
3. General Motors Corp., Detroit, 2, $195.645
4. Ford Motor Co., Dearborn, Mich., 4, $164.496
5. General Electric Co., Fairfield, Conn., 5, $134.187
6. ChevronTexaco Corp., San Ramon, Calif., 7, $112.937
7. ConocoPhillips, Houston, 12, $99.468
8. Citigroup Inc., New York, 6, $94.713
9. International Business Machines Corp., Armonk, N.Y., 8, $89.131
10. American International Group, Inc., New York, 9, $81.300
11. Hewlett-Packard Co., Palo Alto, Calif., 14, $73.061
12. Verizon Communications Inc., New York, 10, $67.752
13. The Home Depot Inc., Atlanta, 13, $64.816
14. Berkshire Hathaway Inc., Omaha, 28, $63.859
15. Altria Group Inc., New York, 11, $60.704
16. McKesson Corp., San Francisco, 20, $57.129
17. Cardinal Health Inc., Dublin, Ohio, 19, $56.830
18. State Farm Insurance Cos., Bloomington, Ill., 21, $56.065
19. The Kroger Co., Cincinnati, 18, $53.791
20. Fannie Mae, Washington, D.C., 16, $53.767
21. The Boeing Co., Chicago, 15, $50.485
22. AmerisourceBergen Corp., Chesterbrook, Pa., 24, $49.657
23. Target Corp., Minneapolis, 25, $48.163
24. Bank of America Corp., Charlotte, N.C., 23, $48.065
25. Pfizer Inc., New York, 37, $45.950
Oh, yeah, this is from Ernst and Young's website. Odd, no "Wentz" on there.
Past National Entrepreneur Of The Year award winners have included:
Jonathan C. Coon, 1-800-CONTACTS
Jim McCann, 1-800-Flowers.com
Jeff Bezos, Amazon.com
Steve Case, of America Online
Abe J. Gustin, Jr., Applebee's International Inc.
Richard Schulze, Best Buy Co., Inc.
Margot Fraser, Birkenstock
Michael Dell, Dell Computer
Pierre Omidya, eBay, Inc.
Jack and Andy Taylor, Enterprise-Rent-A-Car
Scott Kriens, Juniper Networks
Robert Basham, Tim Gannon, and Chris Sullivan, Outback Steakhouse
Herb Kelleher, Southwest Airlines
Howard Schultz, Starbucks Corp.
Scott McNeeley, Sun Microsystems
Tim Koogle, Jerry Yang, and David Filo, Yahoo!
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Not sure I want to get overly involved in your irrationalism. However, the Fortune 500 is a list put together by Fortune magazine that lists (in their perception) the top 500 companies in assets. Usana would be classified as a "small business". Therefore if you were to pick up a copy of Forbes November, 2004 edition....you would notice Usana ranked as #16 out of 200 best small companies. Not that this ranking will change your life or anything ghostbuster boy. But good luck anyways...wish you all the best in taking things out of context.
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It seems like everyone is getting into nutrition...
You have Amway, Neways, Herbalife, Usana... and many more.
Those who seem to have many problems with any job they do are those who are not happy with the work they do and it shows in the actions of their words and their work... If you don’t work you’re not going to eat. Unless you want it all handed to you... most of those who do have it handed to them do not respect it or others and it shows. Hollywood folks might have money but they did it acting... not setting around hoping someone would pick them to act...
MLM ers didn’t get where they are doing nothing.
Businesses don’t stay around long if they can’t sell.
You can have thousands of good things said about a business but it only takes one to make it look bad.
When you are evaluated at your work place... your evaluation Is based on your performance of the job you are expected to do.
Trust me in order for a business to succeed; one must be willing to make it do so. I have met many in Neways, Amway, Herbalife, Etc. Many of who will tell you they have had to work hard to make something happen.
They will also tell you a lot of people will get into an MLM business thinking gosh in the next thirty seconds I’ll be rich... or even the next day. Thinking they can just set there and expect something to happen or want someone else to do it for them... its almost like they joined now they want it handed to them... I have not heard one person say work was easy... gosh even when I go to the gym I sweat "after a work-out" not just walking in the door and hoping I’ll get healthy by just going in.
By golly if you do not have what it takes to be in business... face it maybe you are not supposed to be. Some people are cut out to be in management and some are not. Some are better followers. Some are better leaders...
It’s all about what you can do if you apply your self....
And you know something else... while writing this. I am also included.
I am also not any better than the next guy... I have seen many guys doing the same thing I do at a job and they do it better than me. That is the way they are made and that’s what I have to accept...
So yes I am in an MLM business and I am progressing... because I am trying my best to make it do so at my cost and at the work of my hands and I never stop thinking. It is neat to see all the TV commercials and how they use music or something funny to catch your eye.... its all "marketing” I mean gosh who hasn’t seen the oven mitt okay I am done...
James
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01-17-2005, 10:01 PM
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These guys have been around for a long time actually. I have driven by their main offices in Utah many times, it's right off the freeway and it all looks like a big company, with employees, management, etc. I personally don't get involved with all this vitamin stuff. Too many such companies around and I hate buying products and kits every month. But I remember when USANA started out and I remember seeing their first office here locally and where they are at now. Seems like the owners may have made millions by now. Never heard anything bad about them.
Another big one coming out of Utah has to do with the Brazilian acai fruit. I think a variation of its name is Monavie. Just another feel good product. They throw Oprah into it (althought she never endorsed the program) because there was a spot on her show about it. All of a sudden they use her name "in connection" with but not as an endorser of the product. Smart marketing gimmick. :) Though you can buy that stuff for as little as $2 a bottle/packet elsewhere.
Side note: anytime you have to buy $x/month worth of products, it's a real good formula for the company owners. Do the math $50 x 100,000 distributors
=$5,000,000 a month. $50 x 1M = $50,000,000 a month. It's like the ridiculously profitable online membership sites that charge $25/month and have millions of members. Good for the companies. Sometimes not so good for the people paying those fees unless they can triple their monthly investment at a minimum.
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01-26-2005, 07:48 PM
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I am actually a representative of USANA Health Sciences. Everything that is published on our websites, I can back 100%! I have been on the vitamins for a year now. I started on the vitamins over 300 lbs. Since then, I've lost 100 lbs, I had a fasting blood test and my doctor was shocked at how low my blood pressure and cholesterol was. She was also shocked that I am not a diabetic. Nor in the danger zone. All of that I attribute to taking those vitamins. Because just 1 year before, I was always stressed out, My blood pressure was extremely high and I was on the borderline for everything.
I have a friend that had a stroke from taking one of those Ephedra based pills to make you lose weight. He was paralyzed on his right left side. He was introduced to USANA Essentials and his health improved dramatically. Within 3 months he was walking again. When doctors told him they didn't know if he ever would.
Is this a miracle medicine? No! But they were designed by Dr. Myron Wentz for the sole purpose of fighting the degenerative diseases of our day. This is not a scam. Even if you don't sign up to be a rep to sell the vitamins, buying them for your own personal consumption isn't a bad idea, at all! Here is my site, just in case you want a look around. USANA
Take care!
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I have a friend that had a stroke from taking one of those Ephedra based pills to make you lose weight. He was paralyzed on his right left side. He was introduced to USANA Essentials and his health improved dramatically. Within 3 months he was walking again. When doctors told him they didn't know if he ever would.
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LaKwanzaa,
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01-26-2005, 09:42 PM
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I am actually a representative of USANA Health Sciences. Everything that is published on our websites, I can back 100%! I have been on the vitamins for a year now. I started on the vitamins over 300 lbs. Since then, I've lost 100 lbs, I had a fasting blood test and my doctor was shocked at how low my blood pressure and cholesterol was. She was also shocked that I am not a diabetic. Nor in the danger zone. All of that I attribute to taking those vitamins. Because just 1 year before, I was always stressed out, My blood pressure was extremely high and I was on the borderline for everything.
I have a friend that had a stroke from taking one of those Ephedra based pills to make you lose weight. He was paralyzed on his right left side. He was introduced to USANA Essentials and his health improved dramatically. Within 3 months he was walking again. When doctors told him they didn't know if he ever would.
Is this a miracle medicine? No! But they were designed by Dr. Myron Wentz for the sole purpose of fighting the degenerative diseases of our day. This is not a scam. Even if you don't sign up to be a rep to sell the vitamins, buying them for your own personal consumption isn't a bad idea, at all! Here is my site, just in case you want a look around. USANA
Take care!
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01-28-2005, 01:31 PM
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On his left side. Excuse me? I am not a liar, you *******. You don't know me. So I made a typo, big deal. But I don't have to lie to a bunch of skeptics that spend their time posting bull on a scam buster website. I am not trying to recruit anyone for my business. I am doing just fine, thank you. I saw the thread and decided to post MY experiences with this company. Think and believe what you want. But don't you dare call me a liar on a SCAM board. I take exception to that. It is akin to attacking my integrity, and I won't let it slide. Please don't let it happen again. My name is LaWanza. By the way you obviously misspelled my name (since the correct spelling is spelled right above you), I take it you are a racist ******* at which point, I have nothing to say to racists *******s anyway.
And the original what? Don't make half statements. If you have something to say about what I said, come right out and say, it.
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I'm glad I came across this forum. USANA being labled a scam is just plain entertaining. The people who label it as a scam obviously have no detailed knowledge about what the USANA business is really about.
I imagine the reasoning behind people categorizing USANA is because they provided the initial payment for a business, sat back, and expected the dollars to start flowing in. When they realized they had to put some actual work into it, they disgarded the business and now devote the rest of their lives to trying to tarnish the good reputation of USANA. Make no mistake, as far as Network Marketing businesses go, USANA is proud to boast one of the highest reputations in the industry.
Just by browsing the previous posts here, I see an overwhelming support for USANA, which is rare to see in any forum discussing a network marketing company.
No matter how you slice and dice it, USANA is not an illegal pyramid scheme, it does not practice unethical business aspects, and it will not be shadowed in the plague of failed schemes trying to disgrace every legitimate business that boasts a success.
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On his left side. Excuse me? I am not a liar, you *******. You don't know me. So I made a typo, big deal. But I don't have to lie to a bunch of skeptics that spend their time posting bull on a scam buster website. I am not trying to recruit anyone for my business. I am doing just fine, thank you. I saw the thread and decided to post MY experiences with this company. Think and believe what you want. But don't you dare call me a liar on a SCAM board. I take exception to that. It is akin to attacking my integrity, and I won't let it slide. Please don't let it happen again. My name is LaWanza. By the way you obviously misspelled my name (since the correct spelling is spelled right above you), I take it you are a racist ******* at which point, I have nothing to say to racists *******s anyway.
And the original what? Don't make half statements. If you have something to say about what I said, come right out and say, it.
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OK...I'll say it.
Even if the stuff does work, why is it being promoted in a manner identical to snake oil?
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02-11-2005, 07:43 AM
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Hey, Usana was awesome. There was a guy named Shaun there that was brought in by Marta to an Usana meeting in Richmond. There was Reiki initiations offered at Usana by Shaun Feb. 10, thursday in Richmond Usana center. With their holistic health products, it was wonderful to see Reiki initiations were given. I figured where Amway had Christianity, is Usana going for New Age? It would be exciting to see a Reiki MLM since it is easy to learn. The whole world could get initiated this way!
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I have used Usana products myself, they didn't help me, but I have MS, so I can't ask for miracles. It is a very ligitimate business.
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Invitation to all USANA members worldwide! You are invited to come join our online discussions forum at www.bizalchemy.org. This site is still being created as we speak (and should be complete very soon) but please do come visit us and register as a member. There are no charges for membership. This site is dedicated to USANA and is created by USANA networkers, for USANA networkers...
See you there!
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Invitation to all USANA members worldwide! You are invited to come join our online discussions forum at www.bizalchemy.org.
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Hi Matthew
Tks for your comments about Usana on this forum. I have been looking into it. I live in Brisbane Australia. At the moment I think I can only afford to join as a preferred customer as I don't have enough money for the business pack for the start up cost.
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USANA is one of the top performing companies on the NASDAQ.
NO Scam here..
If you want to know more contact winningwealth@yahoo.com
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Hi Matthew
Tks for your comments about Usana on this forum. I have been looking into it. I live in Brisbane Australia. At the moment I think I can only afford to join as a preferred customer as I don't have enough money for the business pack for the start up cost.
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If you are really serious about joining the business, I will be happy to give you a loan to purchase the initial products and you may choose whether you want to start either with a 1BC or any of the 3BC packs. This is subject however to your commitment to starting the business.
Also, go to www.bizalchemy.org and register an account for yourself for free so you can use the forum to talk to other USANIANS.
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I checked around...Forbes, USA Today and Inc. Magazine don't know anything about that scam....er, vitamin company!
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I need to correct you. USANA WAS indeed ranked #16 out of 200 companies in Forbes (11/04) beating out such names as PacSun and Pixar.
http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/...tatype=Company
Also ranked #9 by BussinessWeek out 100 Hot Growth Companies.
http://bwnt.businessweek.com/hot_growth/2004/index.asp
CNN stock of the day last summer. Highlighted on United Airlines East bound flights last fall.
http://usana.com/en/opportunity/videos.shtml
KNOW YOU KNOW
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Well, I think what people have to learn in Usana is how to close sales. You gotta be able to drive them to the bank and get it out of their credit cards like one dude I know who is making around 7,000/mo. I know he got 2 people to fork out cash from their credit cards to get their business centers running, and to focus on recruiting. You gotta go recruit Jehovah's Witnesses and Evangelical Christians. While they are annoying guys who would have trouble embracing the New Age, they could get enlightend on holistic health by continuosly purchasing Usana products and changing their mentality towards holistic healing. Next, they might get into Yoga, then, Reiki! Usana is a great way to systematically take out Jehovah's Witnesses and narrow minded Evangelical Christian fundamententalism. But the fundies wouldnt know what is coming. Shaun Wada has now attuned over 3810 people to Reiki since May 9th of 2004, and it would be great if he got people to purchase Usana products.
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USANA is absolutely NOT A SCAM. They are one of the top performing companies on the NASDAQ. The SEC doesn't allow illegally operated companies to be listed on the NASDAQ at all.
If you don't make money in this business it is because YOU are not doing anything
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A few thoughts about USANA, or any MLM company. When you buy into a MLM usually you are making an investment. With any investment you should research what you are investing. Some of these I figures out on my own. Some I borrowed from Direct Marketers Association ( www.dma.com).
Look at the companies finances.
How are they really making their money?
What percent of their income is from product sales vs. membership sales?
What percent of total income do they pay out?
Look for a company that has a independent accounting audit from a
reputable firm, such as Dunn & Bradstreet.
Are the product and price competitive?
So often people forget this common sense question. If I can buy something
just as good at wal-mart for same/less why would I bother buying it
somewhere else?
How is the company structured to payout?
How many teirs can I have?
How many levels will I get paid for?
How much product will I be required to buy
AFTER you have answered these questions to your satisfaction ask how much money you will make.
This may seem like MLM 101, but if people remembered to ask these questions and get the answers in writing a lot of people would save $$$.
Lastly, I will plug my business [Link Removed]. It is with Team National. Does anyone have any experience with this company. Tell me about it.
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