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help is acn a scam!!!!
some friends approached me wi this sheet of paper told me to come to this meeting and i could get rich i went there and the people doing the presentation were realy happy saying how they got rich quick it just takes siging up so many people is this a scam or not
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or has anyone heard of hthe 40k group
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I'm not with ACN, but I do know that it is a very legit company that is about to launch some amazing products. In a few weeks they are introducing video-phone which is called "VOIP" and they are one of a very few companies who will be offering this technology. From what I have learned about getting involved with ACN is that it's like being with sprint back when they were about to launch something called "cell-phones".
I have also been talking to two of the top-dogs in ACN lately, who have been with them for years since they only had long-distance. ACN basically offers different services such as: long-distance, local-calling, online-connection, etc. and now voip. And as an associate you get paid every time someone [using the services] pays their bill. Oh, I am definitely looking at ACN, but I already have two home based businesses and a 12month old that take up most of my time. For anyone looking for a home based business; I would recommend PPL or ACN (I'm with PPL). Hope that helped... |
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I used to be in ACN. My reasons for why I'm not anymore can be found in many threads in this forum.. haha. But I'm not going to go into that here.
If you like recruiting.. A LOT.. then they're a good company for you. If you're good at recruiting, then you'll probably make a lot of money. If you are more into selling services and earning residual, ACN is not the best company for you. You're better off looking at different companies that offer better sales commissions such as Cognigen. One thing though, ACN takes a LOT of hard work (as do all companies.. but ACN seems to take more). For instance, my ex has been doing ACN for the last 3 years. He works full-time at it.. probably 60-80 hours a week, and his income really isn't that impressive. The last time I figured everything out (hours divided by pay) he was making about $6.50 an hour and that is BEFORE taxes and expense deductions. You do the math. Also, in July, over half of his team quit and went to a different MLM company because they just weren't seeing the results anymore with ACN (they were for about the first year or so.. and then everything died off). These were hard-working reps too. They were his top ETTs. So now he's starting all over. Just something to think about. If you'd like more info on what I know, feel free to PM me... |
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ACN is a legit company only by definition. It has many corporate lawyers watch over the legitimacy of the company. ACN’s comp plan encourages reps to speculate and lie about the potential income of this business. ACN’s rep agreement says that reps are not ACN employees, not representatives of ACN and not even agents of ACN. ACN wants to keep its distance from its rep as far as possible in case some stupid reps lied too much and get suited. ACN claim it is a product base company that encourage sales of product instead of recruiting, but the fact is that if you don’t recruit, you might as well not doing the business. Beware those reps that share their get rich quick stories. It is strictly prohibited by ACN. No one will be disciplined because ACN knows that’s what it takes to make money.
I heard a lot of reps say that ACN is not making any money on the $499.00 enrollment fee. You pay $499 and you can get it back by getting 2 reps and 20 customers, therefore, ACN and your upline will not see a dime. I encourage you to do a little math. You paid $499 to join ACN, what do you have to do to get it back? You recruit 2 more reps each paid $499. That is $1500.00 total paid to ACN. You will get those 2 reps qualified within 30 days to get back $500.00. If you do the math, whenever ACN pays out $500.00, it has already collected $1500.00. Sometimes when reps don’t qualify, then ACN doesn’t have to pay out anything. If this kind of business model fits your style, then go ahead and do it. You have to endure a long period of time of hard work without success. At the end, you might have a chance to make something, but the odds are too great to have any kind of guarantee. Don’t listen to them when they tell you so and so made $3000.00 in the first month, so and so made TC (the forth level in ACN) in 3 month. Even those claim may be true, they are isolated cases and strictly prohibited to be used to speculate typical income. Do your math, add up the number, understand your potential and do not listen to hype. |
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Plus.. with VOIP.. there are several companies who have had that service for months now. Also.. the "get paid every time someone pays their bill" part... ACN's commissions for services aren't that great. You can make a lot more on residual in other telecom companies and their rates are lower than ACN's too (some of them even have member-to-member). For instance, my mom has 40 personal customers and gets a $13 check every 3 months.. haha. Had she been in one of the more customer-based companies she would be making a whole lot more. (But this is because she is more interested in selling the services rather than selling the company (AKA "recruiting) |
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ACN = ONE THE MOST LEGAL SCAM'S YOU WILL EVER SEE... I was in it if you want to make true residual income you are lookin at the wrong company RUN!
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Interesting; thanks for the heads up!
As far as talking to the "top dogs", I was really referring to them telling me about the technology end of the company. As far as the BSing goes from them, I know that I dealt with enough of them while I was searching for a NWM business. On the other hand- There is always going to be negativity about companies especially NWM/MLM companies, people who failed in NWM and now they think that everything is a "scam"- run, run, run. If I listened to all of that I would of never gotten with PPLSI and I'm making excellent money with them and I don't even have much of a down-line yet, but you don't have to [recruit] to make money with PPL. Also, to this day PPL still offers the best business opportunity and commission plan I've seen yet. |
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I would ask your senior partner if they knew Chris Oliver former Circle of Champions member and ask why he left after ten years in ACN. Why he would be willing to start all over and leave behind a strong 20k-40k monthly residual income, which all he had to do was pay the $150 renewal and still get paid. They probably wouldn't know, but all I can say is BREAKAGE. When you have 10,000 customers one month and it drops to 800, because someone quit in that leg or got unqualified, I would say thats a huge problem!!!!!!!!Believe me I work directly with him, he has told me some crazy things about ACN's comp plan that no one would ever know other than the ones who help the company get where they are.
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I use to be with them. I don't think it's a scam but it takes very hard work to achieve even a little bit of success. I couldn't make it work for me but I wouldn't call it a scam. If they told you that you could "get rich quick" they are doing the meetings way wrong and they are not being very realistic. My mom and I havd done a few mlms since ACN and road it out until we got tired. Right now she is in another one and instead of joining it like I usually do, I am gonna just help her build as I think I can trust my own Mother enough not to get shafted on what I bring in......lol
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People seem to through the word "scam" around a lot lately. |
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Call it what you want i call it a scam wanna try to build 500 bucks residual in acn gonna take you 2 years of hard solid work how do I know? I did acn and two years later i understood the company was a joke and joined a real MLM and made 2K residual in 5 months with way less work way more money so go figure...... Smart poeple follow money... |
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at1.. weren't you a TC in ACN?
also.. you're right about it taking forever to build residual. My ex has been doing ACN for 3 years now and has been working FULL TIME (60-80 hrs per week) on ACN for the last 2 years.. and he is STILL making less than $500 on monthly residuals (he was a TC too). Like I said before.. ACN is NOT the company to be in if you want to make residual income. If you LOVE recruiting and are GOOD at it.. then you CAN make quite a bit of money with ACN.. just don't expect it to last forever. |
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It took you 5 months to make 2k?! Seems like it's tough to make money in your new MLM company also, huh? ......... Actually, smart people make money. |
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mojo.. he said 2k in RESIDUAL... I would say that 5 months is a fairly short amount of time to make $2000 a month in residual.
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Yeah, 2k in residual alone in only 5 months is very good- Hey, how about you tell us what company you're with... lol |
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April call me call me blocked i don't care we really need to talk about acn and the company i am doing now... |
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at1 check your PM...
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Ok, here is my question? Why is ACN a scam, if after 2 years of work, your Ex gets a $500 check every month, ( $6,000 a year, $60,000 over 10 years) for doing nothing. That's not bad is it? No monthly quotas to meet. Just maintain what you got. Nobody in your downline buying overpriced products?
Where is the scam? With most product drivin scam companies your buried with inventory and monthly sales volume requirements. The problem is unrealistic expectations. Everyone is not going to make 10k a month, but a scam? Please? Has a check ever come late or bounced?? |
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brucefan... I never called ACN a scam... might want to pay attention to who you're talking to.
and it's after THREE years... with two years of working 60-80 hours a week. That really isn't that good... and it will be unlikely that the residual will maintain itself when he quits because even now it seems to go down a little each month... when reps drop out.. their friends and families switch to cheaper rates.. that's just how it works. |
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I keep seeing "fastest to hit RVP...10 months" However...Larry Raskin and Stewart Taub hit RVP in 6 months...wouldn't that be faster? Larry is now VP of NA Sales...don't know where Stewart is. Also Larry himself said someone else hit RVP in 8 months...so 10 is not the fastest according to VP of Sales Larry Raskin. Yes...there were two of them...but there were two...husband and wife...on the 10 month deal too.
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When will you understand that acn paid carlos ray to move his excel team over which is how he hit rvp so fast they also paid a guy from jerrys kids who was also in excel to move his team over.... My upline in the company i am in was offered money to leave and go back to ACN.. I know more broke networkers in acn then in any other MLM that i know of.... And i know Tc's SC's and even RVP's hell i know rvps who make 7k a month not even from residual talking 90% cabs and t-cabs.. Take a good look at some of these RVP's cars they not even 2006's yet they are supposed to be RICH!?!?!?!?
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I have no idea if you are addressing my post here at1 but the people I'm referring to...that Larry referred to...including himself and Stewart are from years ago and have nothing to do with any of them moving any downlines over from any other company. Larry and Stewart came in cold and worked 18 hour days to get to RVP in 6 months. I don't even know who the person is that made it in 8 but that also was years and years ago. This stuff is coming straight from Larry Raskin, not me. I'm just passing on his statements that refute 10 months being the fastest...that's all.
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My vehicle is a freakin' 92'... :( But it doesn't mean that I'm not making money with my NWM business. I just don't feel the need to flaunt my money, it's no-body's business... :mad: |
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Personally I don't care...just trying to set the record straight as the false info was stated numerous times. I just feel if info is going to be posted...is should be correct. If people don't think being correct is important...then...what is? And no...it won't ever be done that fast again.
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^^ I agree
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